Thread: Trending, a word I dislike

+1 to what Glen said.

Reminds me of a razor that was discussed in this thread.

I use the word, "accused", as that seems the appropriate word, of a razor that Glen was supposed to have done with custom metal scales.

He in fact did not do this razor, someone else had and then somewhat apologized for the work. Glen, in my opinion, correctly pointed out why should an apology be given in any case! Whether the razor was for personal use or someone else, that was up to them, and if they liked it, fine - end of story.

Originally Posted by gssixgun

Perhaps you should have started with this last statement, rather than all the generalizations above... there is quite a difference in the way things are said..


Just for rest of the discussion about encouraging the new guys, I personally don't look at the choice of materials or colors etc: as that is personal, it makes no difference if I like it, as it isn't my razor, I only look at the workmanship and the functionality...

Yes I see your point Glenn I was a bit all over the place talking appearances in the beginning and ending with tradition,
Point taken.
Darl

Originally Posted by Tarkus

That's it 100% The History. The history is whats got me hooked more then anything else. The artists who created these masterpieces (and artist they are) spent there blood during very hard times. Working in hell earning hell wages and still producing such elegant creations. Its my way of honoring there work in keeping the artists original concepts. Granted that's totally subjective, but if I can at least keep the materials as similar as I can as well as the period shape & design I feel I accomplished my goal.

This thread is a hell-of-a-read, lol- I've kept it a fish bowl but need to say many of us can appreciate both sides of the argument. Being a bit of a purist myself I can attest to bring the razor as close to factory as possible catches my eye. It's really incredible to see something 150 years old look like you just opened the box for the first time- however I too can appreciate the new concepts of today's craftsman who took something old and made it new-new.... Some of those custom vintage jobs are just incredibly done.

To each his own, and to some both. I think I'm in the both category. I dot remember who said it above but I think as you gain more historical knowledge in this hobby the more of a purist you become.... When I fist got started I did my fair share of wht I would now consider to be sac religious resto work, in clouding completely destroying a wonderful pair of honey horn scales off a 170 year hold tillotsons that were like a 7/10 and looked fantastic... Oops.

We are in complete agreement on your "100% History" statement I love the history of what we do here on SRP and this hobby..

Allow me to give a comparative example as an avid golfer and golf course historian interested in architecture. My view is that there are several or quite a few now dead golf course architects who have left us with timeless gems that deserve to be preserved as close to their original state as humanly possible. As golf courses are living things keeping things intact is difficult but one can get really close to how they were presented by the original architect. Good examples of courses never to be tampered with or changed materially are The Old Course at St. Andrews (sadly being altered right now by the R & A), The National Golf Links of America (NGLA – Charles Blair MacDonald), Cypress Point Club Dr Alister Mackenzie), Winged Foot (AW Tillinghast), Myopia Hunt Club (H Leeds), Oakmont (Fownes) and about 50-100 others that perhaps represent the great work of these talented architects. Now there are also many mediocre examples of their works that are not necessarily candidates for restoration. My opinion is that if something is historically important and in a state where it can be restored and there is historical documentation of the work to use as a template then it should remain as built. Like with owning razors, many or most of these golf courses are private and the members/owners can do with it what they wish. An example of a butchered golf course that remains pristine and pretty is Augusta National (also designed by Alister Mackenzie but with little of his genius left intact). It’s totally functional as a golf course and beautiful for the Masters Tournament each year. It’s like a 200 year old razor made shiny, sharp with neon green G10 scales but nothing like it was originally built.

I guess I believe that if possible we should never make extinct examples of original work as close to how they were when crafted but each private owner must make that decision for themselves.

I have a hard time calling some of the mass produced cheap razors the product of a discerning artist's craftsmanship.
I wonder if in a couple hundred years people will be discussing restoring a Bic razor to the glory that was intended by the craftsman who made it...

I wonder if, in a 100 years, people will worry about restoring a DOVO BQ to its former glory or put some neon green scales on it.

Originally Posted by Phrank

+1 to what Glen said.

Reminds me of a razor that was discussed in this thread.

I use the word, "accused", as that seems the appropriate word, of a razor that Glen was supposed to have done with custom metal scales.

He in fact did not do this razor, someone else had and then somewhat apologized for the work. Glen, in my opinion, correctly pointed out why should an apology be given in any case! Whether the razor was for personal use or someone else, that was up to them, and if they liked it, fine - end of story.

That was an ebay cheapie "Sweeny Todd" razor! Hence the joke! We all knew Glen did not do it. I did not apologize for inserting a Friodur blade into the scales from one (although it WAS a silly thing to do!). Just pointing out what we sometimes do before we know better! I am certainly no exception!