Thread: Modified Gold Dollar

Originally Posted by qdaddy

I thought 95.00 for shipping was high too, but I'm no expert in ordering razors either. I'm a newb to straight razors but not business, just international business. It's kind of funny how some of the senior guys think because you may not know razors as well as they do that you somehow just can't be intelligent. I've received support for attempting to head a group buy however I've had some resistance too. I am wondering why this is (resistance)? I thought everyone here was all about supporting each other and to renew interest in this hobby.

No disrespect intended, but is that really difficult to understand? You've got a grand total of 17 posts to this point and a pretty serious chunk of them are in this thread discussing heading up a group buy (which I will participate in). Some guys are really watchful of newbs to begin with, and they certainly aren't on the short list of people to send money to. It's not personal towards you, but I think it would be true of anyone who tried something like this without becoming really well established as a general member that contributes in a meaningful way.

Originally Posted by qdaddy

I thought 95.00 for shipping was high too, but I'm no expert in ordering razors either. I'm a newb to straight razors but not business, just international business. It's kind of funny how some of the senior guys think because you may not know razors as well as they do that you somehow just can't be intelligent. I've received support for attempting to head a group buy however I've had some resistance too. I am wondering why this is (resistance)? I thought everyone here was all about supporting each other and to renew interest in this hobby.

Resistance here in the thread? Or have you recieved PMs from the Shanghai Razor Mafia?

Ther have certainly been caveats mentioned here in the thread, but that is for the sake of giving a "head's up". I'm not interested in being in the GD import/export business, I wanted a supply of them for my own nefarious doings...


BTW, I paid $95 in shipping, but that was express shipping, and I recieved the razors within a week of ordering.

EDIT:
I'm also in Boston, you are in LA. Perhaps that is teh difference in shipping quotes, since mine also has to go across the USofA?

Yeah, I am a junior member, but haven't noticed any resistance from the senior guys. I noted the Shanghai retail prices, and others noted what prices they got them for.

Some people did mention the work that needs to go into them, but I think that is fair. I am working on one right now, and I just can't seem to get it sharp enough for a BBS. I noticed it doesn't sit flat on the hones, even though I have taken down the shoulders quite a bit. The tang could use some straightening, but my vise is not quite strong enough, so I am trying to hone by doing a rolling stroke.

I think the caveats are pretty apropos and am thankful some of the older guys are giving people a heads up.

Originally Posted by Seraphim

Resistance here in the thread? Or have you recieved PMs from the Shanghai Razor Mafia?

Ther have certainly been caveats mentioned here in the thread, but that is for the sake of giving a "head's up". I'm not interested in being in the GD import/export business, I wanted a supply of them for my own nefarious doings...


BTW, I paid $95 in shipping, but that was express shipping, and I recieved the razors within a week of ordering.

EDIT:
I'm also in Boston, you are in LA. Perhaps that is teh difference in shipping quotes, since mine also has to go across the USofA?

I can reaffirm that I'm still interested in jumping in for a handful (a dozen maybe) if this gets off the ground. While waiting I decided to go hunt some DA and GD blades down and try them out. Long story short I have 4 inbound. One is a DA that's a 7/8, and the other 3 are Gold Dollars in the denominations of 66, 100, and 200. If all else fails with finding a match for Monty I'll just take the best of these and make it "as one" with those beautiful python scales.

Last winter I was thinking that Wapis were nice utility blades and that since they were so inexpensive I'd buy a pile and have fun making new scales for them. Almost a year later now Wapis are going for over $50 lately so I'm thinking about holding on to the few I Wapis have left for my 2 sons, and using DA or GDs for my Frankenstein works now.

In thinking about scales for these 4 - are all DAs 7/8? Also, what are the width of the 3 GDs I ordered? They were so inexpensive that I didn't bother trying to determine the GD width - but I'm hoping they're 6/8 or wider. I can still have fun rescaling a 5/8 but a little wider and I can use them myself.

Originally Posted by richmondesi

No disrespect intended, but is that really difficult to understand? You've got a grand total of 17 posts to this point and a pretty serious chunk of them are in this thread discussing heading up a group buy (which I will participate in). Some guys are really watchful of newbs to begin with, and they certainly aren't on the short list of people to send money to. It's not personal towards you, but I think it would be true of anyone who tried something like this without becoming really well established as a general member that contributes in a meaningful way.

I never asked for money? And you've been here since Jan 09 and I don't see a contributor tag on your profile? Are you not as trustworthy now as you were then? My original plan was to purchase them with my own money and the only risk would have been no more than $10-12 a razor. I truthfully think money has nothing to do with it because I not once asked for any. I didn't hold anyone at gunpoint demanding money, in fact most PMs were very cordial and some of the most supportive from the newer guys.


This past weekend I met up with Larry from Arlington Texas and he taught me more over breakfast about honing and pastes than I have learned watching videos etc. He made an effort to reach out and make a connection with anther human being to further this hobby. I met him on this forum and am grateful, very grateful.

Its Larry's spirit we should embody, not quoting fees higher than they are to make it appear less appealing to all those members with hopes of getting a few for themselves to learn on. Everyone has to start somewhere right? It seems more like high school mentality with picking on the new kid. Have we not grown into MEN and moved past this?

Look man, no one's been picking on you. That's all in your head. There's some guys on here who have done what you're talking about before and are trying to caution you about the difficulties you'll run into.

Also, while you haven't actually asked for money, you're presumably not going to just give away the razors, so at some point we who would buy them from you are going to have to send you money. If you're new to forum protocol I understand your frustration, but mistrust of newbies who want to sell something is completely normal. Most of the time that happens the guy's a scammer. Not saying you are.

Originally Posted by aragornelessar86

Look man, no one's been picking on you. That's all in your head. There's some guys on here who have done what you're talking about before and are trying to caution you about the difficulties you'll run into.

Also, while you haven't actually asked for money, you're presumably not going to just give away the razors, so at some point we who would buy them from you are going to have to send you money. If you're new to forum protocol I understand your frustration, but mistrust of newbies who want to sell something is completely normal. Most of the time that happens the guy's a scammer. Not saying you are.

Thanks, sometimes it takes getting hit over the head with it to see it more clearly. Yes, perhaps it is the protocol I'm having trouble with. I appreciate you being clear and to the point. Maybe it's me? I just realize that on a site like this every purchase is a risk and I own that risk if I participate, I don't need "more experienced" folks to police it for me. I believe most feel this way but I could be wrong, it sure wouldn't be the first time.

If your goal is truly just to get a bunch of these things for a group buy, I recommend maybe you ask Kenrup if he'd be willing to tack an extra hundred onto his next order for you. After all, he does it all the time and already knows what he's doing. Maybe he'd be interested.

Also, if I come into a new forum and want to organize something where people have money or goods at risk (a pass, group buy, etc.), I always do what I can to take all the risk (ship before recieving payment, etc.). Just a thought. Not necessary, just something I do to help allieve the general newbie mistrust.

Originally Posted by qdaddy

Its Larry's spirit we should embody, not quoting fees higher than they are to make it appear less appealing to all those members with hopes of getting a few for themselves to learn on. Everyone has to start somewhere right? It seems more like high school mentality with picking on the new kid. Have we not grown into MEN and moved past this?

Is that a shot at me?

I paid $95 for shipping, that's no lie, that is what I paid. Take it or leave it.

I also posted what I recall were the prices for the other razor models' wholesale costs.

Listen, if you look back at the OP, it was I who started this thread to begin with to share a bit more information about these razors that I am a fan of. They are so ridiculously inexpensive (even at $10 each) most newbies (and razor snobs too!) don't know quite what to make of them. So I thought I'd share what I know, and a bit about my experience with them (i.e.-they do come with issues, loose pins, lousey scales, uneven edges, etc, etc..). Do a search for "Double Arrow", and you will see that I have shared alot of what I know about these razors with the forum at large.

Is that what you are refering to as far as "resistance" goes?

It is a forum, where discussion takes place.

Should the more experience members also not offer up advice to the forums as to how to get a better edge on a razor, better beard prep, etc, etc... or other such policing manuevers? Just let folks find out for themselves?

Originally Posted by Seraphim

Is that a shot at me?

I paid $95 for shipping, that's no lie, that is what I paid. Take it or leave it.

I also posted what I recall were the prices for the other razor models' wholesale costs.

Listen, if you look back at the OP, it was I who started this thread to begin with to share a bit more information about these razors that I am a fan of. They are so ridiculously inexpensive (even at $10 each) most newbies (and razor snobs too!) don't know quite what to make of them. So I thought I'd share what I know, and a bit about my experience with them (i.e.-they do come with issues, loose pins, lousey scales, uneven edges, etc, etc..). Do a search for "Double Arrow", and you will see that I have shared alot of what I know about these razors with the forum at large.

Is that what you are refering to as far as "resistance" goes?

It is a forum, where discussion takes place.

Should the more experience members also not offer up advice to the forums as to how to get a better edge on a razor, better beard prep, etc, etc... or other such policing manuevers? Just let folks find out for themselves?

You've shared a wealth of information regarding the Gold Dollar razors for a very long time. Thank you for that.

Chris L