Thread: Paper testing razors

Originally Posted by onimaru55

Another thing that happens after some time is that the hands get more educated & lighter so less toothy mashed up edges. Testing with paper does not create less 'teeth'.

No it does not. I believe many of our senses get more educated and acute to our honing and our testing with time and more experience. Only more likely to find the condition before the test shave if we have not avoided it altogether.

Originally Posted by bigeasy1

No it does not. I believe many of our senses get more educated and acute to our honing and our testing with time and more experience. Only more likely to find the condition before the test shave if we have not avoided it altogether.

Well it may depend on what you call a toothy edge but they can shave just as well as a smooth looking edge & if your 'test' tells you something different you may be creating more work for nothing.

Originally Posted by onimaru55

Well it may depend on what you call a toothy edge but they can shave just as well as a smooth looking edge & if your 'test' tells you something different you may be creating more work for nothing.

I agree completely. I suppose without the experience, one could also create a tooth or two with cutting paper. I would think experience and style with shaving would also determine just how sensitive one is to a toothy edge. I have found that I shave with a much lighter hand than I once did, and may be less sensitive to a scratchy edge. Once gave a small razor to a friend warning that I could not get a really good shave with it. He sends an email saying he got a wonderful shave. Huh? Under interrogation, he tells me he uses shampoo with conditioner between the preshave oil, and the lather, while putting the hot towels to his face. Had to try it and it was a fantastic shave. Unfortunately, I hone more for other people, and don't feel like I can use it on those razors as it may be too likely to cover too many imperfections.

Originally Posted by bigeasy1

I agree completely. I suppose without the experience, one could also create a tooth or two with cutting paper. I would think experience and style with shaving would also determine just how sensitive one is to a toothy edge. I have found that I shave with a much lighter hand than I once did, and may be less sensitive to a scratchy edge. Once gave a small razor to a friend warning that I could not get a really good shave with it. He sends an email saying he got a wonderful shave. Huh? Under interrogation, he tells me he uses shampoo with conditioner between the preshave oil, and the lather, while putting the hot towels to his face. Had to try it and it was a fantastic shave. Unfortunately, I hone more for other people, and don't feel like I can use it on those razors as it may be too likely to cover too many imperfections.

I'm not sure if you get my point. I'm saying a toothy looking edge can shave identically to a smooth looking edge. No difference whatsoever. No scratchiness. No need for any compensation in lather or prep.
Below are 2 Pumas that shave identically one looks smoother than the other but no difference whatsoever in the shave test.

Originally Posted by onimaru55

I'm not sure if you get my point. I'm saying a toothy looking edge can shave identically to a smooth looking edge. No difference whatsoever. No scratchiness. No need for any compensation in lather or prep.
Below are 2 Pumas that shave identically one looks smoother than the other but no difference whatsoever in the shave test.

You are right, I did not completely understand. I am uncertain from your pics. This is pretty high magnification and different lighting. I would be very interested in testing each. I do see some very small teeth in the darker photo, but am unsure it would be enough to think it would cause a big problem. You say they shave identically. I have to assume this is for you. Have you had anyone with about a month of experience test each?

Originally Posted by bigeasy1

You are right, I did not completely understand. I am uncertain from your pics. This is pretty high magnification and different lighting. 200x approx & the darker one was to silhouette the teeth as best as possible. I would be very interested in testing each. Sorry, gone to owners years ago. I do see some very small teeth in the darker photo, but am unsure it would be enough to think it would cause a big problem. That was my point re teeth. The other is obviously quite smooth by comparison so there should be some difference right ?. You say they shave identically. Correct I have to assume this is for you. I tested them , yes. Have you had anyone with about a month of experience test each? I don't understand what that would prove. Both razors went to ecstatic owners who were not seasoned vets. I would've heard back if there were complaints.

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"I do see some very small teeth in the darker photo, but am unsure it would be enough to think it would cause a big problem. That was my point re teeth. The other is obviously quite smooth by comparison so there should be some difference right ?. You say they shave identically. Correct I have to assume this is for you. I tested them , yes. Have you had anyone with about a month of experience test each? I don't understand what that would prove. Both razors went to ecstatic owners who were not seasoned vets. I would've heard back if there were complaints."

As I mentioned early, I did not see a difference that I thought would be particularly noticeable on the shave, although I did notice a difference. The spots I see along the edge to not seem to be jagged, and may very well pass fine. Obviously did. As you yourself mentioned in an earlier post, the only true test is on the face. I have a microscope, but do not use it to determine if a razor will shave well. Mainly use it to find problems or phenomena that I am not finding by other methods. I main point with the question about a new shaver using it, was that I find newer shavers may be more sensitive to a rough edge. That was all. Thanks for the pics and further explanation. I didn't have a problem with your original comments, just the questions.
Cheers
ps, new to this type of posting so it may turn up a mess.