Thread: Strike against Syria

Originally Posted by Phrank

Saw this the other day- there is some wisdom in it. IMO - Syria is a lose / lose scenario, let them clean up their own backyard. There are better use of US dollars.



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Originally Posted by Phrank

Saw this the other day- there is some wisdom in it. IMO - Syria is a lose / lose scenario, let them clean up their own backyard. There are better use of US dollars.



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I disagree... The USA should invade the USA and win the hearts and minds of the population with transparency and accountability in government, elimination of surveillance and warfare against it's own citizens and by building trust with the American people by showing them a government that actually works.

Originally Posted by Phrank

Saw this the other day- there is some wisdom in it. IMO - Syria is a lose / lose scenario, let them clean up their own backyard. There are better use of US dollars.



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We spent over 700 billion dollars on the President's stimulus plan that was supposed to take care of all of that with "shovel ready jobs". Looks like the domestic policies are just as effective as the foreign policies.

Originally Posted by gssixgun

This might simplify the Syrian issue for everyone,
just got this one pretty sad but also very true


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Here in the President's home town of Chicago, last year we had a total of 514 homicides. This year, to date, 307 dead and 1319 shot and wounded. Just over the Labor day weekend, 11 dead and 27 wounded. Considering the numbers of dead in Syria, I'm waiting for an aircraft carrier to be parked off the lake shore any minute.

Originally Posted by MickR

Understand, that I am not against action, indeed the man (Assad) should have been tried long before now for criminal acts, but they need to be acts that he is guilty of, and for that proof is what is needed. But more proof than what was had against Suddam Hussien...Where did those durn WMD's end up anyway?! ...


Mick

I'm on record as opposing any strike in Syria for now. But this article from 2006 may open another avenue for debate.

"The man who served as the no. 2 official in Saddam Hussein's air force says Iraq moved weapons of mass destruction into Syria before the war by loading the weapons into civilian aircraft in which the passenger seats were removed.

The Iraqi general, Georges Sada, makes the charges in a new book, "Saddam's Secrets," released this week. He detailed the transfers in an interview yesterday with The New York Sun.

"There are weapons of mass destruction gone out from Iraq to Syria, and they must be found and returned to safe hands," Mr. Sada said. "I am confident they were taken over."

Mr. Sada's comments come just more than a month after Israel's top general during Operation Iraqi Freedom, Moshe Yaalon, told the Sun that Saddam "transferred the chemical agents from Iraq to Syria."

Iraq's WMD Secreted in Syria, Sada Says - The New York Sun

Originally Posted by OCDshaver

Here in the President's home town of Chicago, last year we had a total of 514 homicides. This year, to date, 307 dead and 1319 shot and wounded. Just over the Labor day weekend, 11 dead and 27 wounded. Considering the numbers of dead in Syria, I'm waiting for an aircraft carrier to be parked off the lake shore any minute.

You would have to go on with that homicide rate for about 200 years to match the death toll in Syria so far in order to warrant the attention of an aircraft carrier. As bad as Chicago is it ain't got a candle on Syria. You are right though, there is plenty to worry about and correct at home.

Bob

Originally Posted by BobH

You would have to go on with that homicide rate for about 200 years to match the death toll in Syria so far in order to warrant the attention of an aircraft carrier. As bad as Chicago is it ain't got a candle on Syria. You are right though, there is plenty to worry about and correct at home.

Bob

What was the death toll for the chemical attack? 1400?

"The US put the death toll at 1,429, including 426 children and has blamed the Syrian government, based on its intelligence. "

BBC News - France: Syrian government 'behind chemical attack'


You get my point. I get your point.

Originally Posted by OCDshaver

I'm on record as opposing any strike in Syria for now. But this article from 2006 may open another avenue for debate.

"The man who served as the no. 2 official in Saddam Hussein's air force says Iraq moved weapons of mass destruction into Syria before the war by loading the weapons into civilian aircraft in which the passenger seats were removed.

The Iraqi general, Georges Sada, makes the charges in a new book, "Saddam's Secrets," released this week. He detailed the transfers in an interview yesterday with The New York Sun.

"There are weapons of mass destruction gone out from Iraq to Syria, and they must be found and returned to safe hands," Mr. Sada said. "I am confident they were taken over."

Mr. Sada's comments come just more than a month after Israel's top general during Operation Iraqi Freedom, Moshe Yaalon, told the Sun that Saddam "transferred the chemical agents from Iraq to Syria."

Iraq's WMD Secreted in Syria, Sada Says - The New York Sun

Well, if it's verified truth, gained without torture (tortured people will say anything to make the torture stop) and obviously from various sources, then it must have caused some concern back then. I wonder what was done about it at the time?!



Mick

A delayed response to something posted by gssixgun, a query about what Australia might be doing in relation to the situation in Syria...Not stepping up to the plate with a response yet or something. Well, Australia is due to go to the polling booths on Saturday (your Friday in the US) for Federal Elections, so I would say Australia will be right up there with the US, just as soon as we find out who's going to be running the show here at home .

I should have thought of that earlier, but it just didn't enter my mind. Anyway, that may be the reason why...But I wouldn't know for sure.


Mick

Originally Posted by MickR

Well, if it's verified truth, gained without torture (tortured people will say anything to make the torture stop) and obviously from various sources, then it must have caused some concern back then. I wonder what was done about it at the time?!



Mick

My understanding is that it was never verified. You have to figure, this guy is a former general that was ousted by Sadaam, called back into service, then sides with the US during the invasion. He’s unpopular in Iraq and even if what he says is 100% true, what is the US going to do about it? The President at the time is up to his eyeballs in a very unpopular war, he’s getting criticism from the public, the news media, and the opposition party. The fragile coalition he was able to put together is damn near crumbling daily and now he’s going to make accusations that Syria is holding the chemical weapons and march in there too? LOL. No, I don’t think so.