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    As many here have stated, in their opinion, not much has changed in 10, 20, 50 or even 70 years.

    Many people in Canada and countries all over the world share this feeling of things getting worse. I think a lot of it has to do with more information coming at you all the time as has been said. And the messages are most often negative.

    But maybe another way to look at it is through another lens. If you decide that things are crap, I'll pretty much guarantee you they will be. But if you have an attitude that things change, and change sometimes isn't comfortable, but the same true values are there, and you look for the positive aspects of things, well, you can find those things too.

    The United States of America, "Home of the Free and Land of the Brave", it's still there, hundreds of millions of people all over the world believe that about the USA, and millions come to your country for that reason and do find that dream.

    I think there are values built into your Constitution, that while they may evolve, they will always define what it is to be "American". And I think the motto of the United States is still as strong and alive today in every American, regardless of current differences, this beautiful statement of Patriotism and unity, "E Pluribus Unum" - "Out of Many, One".

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    Quote Originally Posted by pixelfixed View Post
    And just where do's all the technology get created??,America is the Brain trust of the entire world,always have been,always will be
    Hell yeah! Where do you think most of the world sends most of their people to train on all the technologies, engineering etc.? Here, of course. Computer technology? Here! Where does China get all it's people trained in computers, go back, and China gets them to hack into all our computers. Here! Ad nauseum. At one time this country was the most robust, most innovative, most free country in the world. We can be again, iffen the guv'ment would get their foot off our necks, and their hands out of our pockets, and leave us the hell alone!

    I know, rant! Gotta watch my blood pressure. LOL.


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    One Nation,America, needs to dominate it's own nation first and formost,we need to stop sending our steel,Lumber and cement to China.
    We need those materials to rebuild the american Infrastructure.
    The mideast has nothing to offer except sand,we can and should turn the entire area into a glass parking lot,could be done in a matter of minutes.
    No more trillions of wasted money,no more ISIS,no more Al quida (SP) just get rid of that entire segment of the world.
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    In a representative democracy as USA it's about voting and how well those who vote can think.

    With respect to voting the latest results from last week showed over 90% reelection rate.

    As far as thinking - wealth creation in 21st century is different than the one in 20th century which was different than in the 19th century, different from the 18th century...

    The fact is that the 'middle class' jobs of the last generation where one could drive a forklift in a warehouse or punch tickets and have a house, pay for college for the kids, etc. those jobs are gone and are never coming back because they are now largely done by machines. Just like the jobs of picking cotton or hoeing the field by hand disappeared for good long time ago.

    The unskilled immigrants have negative effect only on the unskilled americans who compete with them and in fact are beneficial to everybody in the top four quintiles of the income distribution.
    Blaming them as the big problem is exactly the type of misplaced anger that enables the real problems to keep being ignored.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pixelfixed View Post
    And just where do's all the technology get created??,America is the Brain trust of the entire world,always have been,always will be
    This isn't true at all. America became technological leader only after it started to import first class brains from the rest of the world in large quantities. Before then it lagged behind Europe and UK.

    With just 300 million population it will lose its edge in about a generation after this ongoing import stops.

    Believe me US does not have a special 'smart gene' that makes the people born here superior, it's the open system that is attractive to smart and driven people. However, it no longer has monopoly on openness and nowadays it has to compete for this type of people a lot harder than it used to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pixelfixed View Post
    And just where do's all the technology get created??,America is the Brain trust of the entire world,always have been,always will be
    I'm pretty sure America lure's the techno geeks here it has a letter designation B?, isn't that what we did with the Nazi scientist? Rockets ring a bell? So I'm not sure that we're producing Born and raised here smarts.
    Our education system sucks...
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    I wont argue about the import of brains I feel differently. What I will say is this, what made america great is that if someone had an idea and a product and was willing to risk it, they could and did make products that changed the world. Henry Ford, Samuel Colt, and Hewlett Packard to name a few did this. This was something that could be done in America that couldn't be done in the rest of the world because of class. Lower class people would never have been able to do this in the rest of the world. I find this to be the same in America now. You can no longer appeal to the middle and lower class here and get financing. If the upper class here thinks that it is something that can make money they will buy you out in a second. Sure you might make some money on the deal but I guarantee you the rich will make more.
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    Reading through these threads l hear and see extactly the same here in the little old UK. This has been going on for decades so I don't suppose much will change and if anyone speaks out your branded a racist.
    One thing l will say regarding the OP is that war is big money, the UKs biggest export is munitions and the only reason that us and America are in Afghanistan and Iraq are for financial gains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markbignosekelly View Post
    Reading through these threads l hear and see extactly the same here in the little old UK. This has been going on for decades so I don't suppose much will change and if anyone speaks out your branded a racist.
    One thing l will say regarding the OP is that war is big money, the UKs biggest export is munitions and the only reason that us and America are in Afghanistan and Iraq are for financial gains.
    The largest manufacturers of arms in the world also happen to be the permanent members of the UN security council.
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