Thread: Is The Sky Falling ?

The FACT is that none of us can truly say we know the facts (in regards to the theory of global warming) as they are all swayed in one way or another to prove a point as to statistics.

I do believe that we humans have not done any good for this earth for sure.

Originally Posted by Birnando

Whoa, that can be so turned around it is not even funny.
Who do you think stand to make the most money on keeping the status quo, and fighting change?

Treehuggers or the globalized industries making a cr@pload of money without all them pesky environmentalists trying to change things?

Follow the money indeed!

I guess you can look at it that way too...

Myself I am way more effected by Taxes and Governmental imposed restrictions on natural resource usage, then I am effected by Exxon/Mobil or BP making huge money...

I see the entire "Sky Falling" scenario as a huge power grab opportunity by big government, at least here in the US..

I also see most "Green solutions" ie: Wind, Solar, especially as very short sighted and actually not very green at all, they are simply very expensive..
Fossil fuels created the surplus of humans, when it runs out, we will either have found another source of power, or we will begin to decline in numbers, either way the problem is solved..

But in reality I am not disagreeing with you, in fact I agree that there are two sides and both are in it for the money, now if everyone else would realize that perhaps some solutions to both issues can be found..

Less Pollution,
Cheaper NRG

BUT

Lets say we solve that, we will still have an issue with finding food and water for 7+Billion people, until we realize that the real problem is the planetary population,, all sides are simply kicking the can..

Some are in it for the money, some for power and prestige, and others are 'true believers' no matter which side of the fence they are on. Most of us follow events, or don't , while having very little to do with the outcome. Life is short and if you read history it is clear that homo sapiens don't seem to learn from it, just repeat the same old thing every few generations.

Is a huge amt of very sound science that has come out in the past few years,you just have to read it.
The almost complete disaperance of Cod off the east coast,Hundreds of frogs are becoming extinct.
The melting of Polar ice and glaciars,this is all real stuff folks.

Honey bees, monarch butterflies, bananas to name a few that we may not see in the next couple of decades ......... if we're still here.

Whenever a new technology comes out people laugh and are critical about it. When the first cars came out people laughed at that. I mean everyone knows it's horsepower that makes the country work (real horsepower). They laughed at the first steam engines too. They laughed at the Wright brothers. New technologies are short sighted only by short sighted people. If every house and factory had solar for hot water and electricity things would be different. In fact moves are under way to squash these new technologies by the ones in power now.

Once these things are developed they become mainstream and then looking back they are no laughing matter. It's then the old ways that folks laugh at.

Originally Posted by thebigspendur

Whenever a new technology comes out people laugh and are critical about it.

Like that guy Gillette with that contraption with the little blades ! ........

Originally Posted by thebigspendur

New technologies are short sighted only by short sighted people. If every house and factory had solar for hot water and electricity things would be different.

Come on now, that is simply not right

You only have to Google the environmental effects of Solar panel production and disposal to find that they are not so Green

I got schooled on this stuff by a little hippy chick when Ford first came out with the Hybrid Escape

Here I thought wow Ford producing a Green Machine, she sat down at my desk and explained just how bad hybrids were from Production to Destruction and explained that one must look at the entire life cycle of a product to see it's real effect on the environment

That set me on many searches about Wind and Solar NRG, I found she was very right

Old or new tech there is no such thing as leaving no foot print or a free lunch. You are left with choosing the lesser of two evils usually.

Bob

Originally Posted by gssixgun

I got schooled on this stuff by a little hippy chick when Ford first came out with the Hybrid Escape

Yeah but Glen ......... spendur got schooled by a Flapper when Henry Ford brought out the Model T !! ..........