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    Social Security is the longest running, largest operating ponzi scheme. This is straight out of my economics textbook lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Willisf View Post
    Everyone needs to apply for it? Even if you have insurance through your employer? That's wacked!

    One thing about governments, no matter where you live..... They will rip their people off!
    That's not accurate. I've been insured through my employer for 8 years and I've done nothing different -nor has my coverage changed in cost or quality- before or after the enactment of the Affordabe Care Act.

    Anyone want to reckon with the fact that Americans spend almost twice as much per person than the industrialized nations and have worse health outcomes?
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    Dont get me started. Sick wife on SSD. As soon as I take a job making $200 a week. They cut her healthcare. $15K in scripts alone last year.
    I quit work she gets ALL her Dr.s Visits ,Testing and ALL MEDS for free.
    Now the kicker.
    Since I dont work Obama now gives me free healthcare and medications all for free.
    Wait it gets better, then the government says We qualify for food stamps and here is $350 a month for food.
    Short story I need a job that pays $20 per hour plus benefits and 40 hours a week to equal what the government pays me to sit at home.
    FUBAR
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    Quote Originally Posted by ultrasoundguy2003 View Post
    Dont get me started. Sick wife on SSD. As soon as I take a job making $200 a week. They cut her healthcare. $15K in scripts alone last year.
    I quit work she gets ALL her Dr.s Visits ,Testing and ALL MEDS for free.
    Now the kicker.
    Since I dont work Obama now gives me free healthcare and medications all for free.
    Wait it gets better, then the government says We qualify for food stamps and here is $350 a month for food.
    Short story I need a job that pays $20 per hour plus benefits and 40 hours a week to equal what the government pays me to sit at home.
    FUBAR
    And that's exactly what its designed to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ultrasoundguy2003 View Post
    Dont get me started. Sick wife on SSD. As soon as I take a job making $200 a week. They cut her healthcare. $15K in scripts alone last year.
    I quit work she gets ALL her Dr.s Visits ,Testing and ALL MEDS for free.
    Now the kicker.
    Since I dont work Obama now gives me free healthcare and medications all for free.
    Wait it gets better, then the government says We qualify for food stamps and here is $350 a month for food.
    Short story I need a job that pays $20 per hour plus benefits and 40 hours a week to equal what the government pays me to sit at home.
    FUBAR
    You mean before Obama was President, Bush would never give you that? Reagan too or even Clinton? Gee why is Obama being so nice to you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by prodigy View Post
    Social Security is the longest running, largest operating ponzi scheme. This is straight out of my economics textbook lol
    I'm pretty sure the longest running, largest operating ponzi scheme is still life itself as we know it.

    Somebody first makes you, then feeds and takes care of you for at least a dozen years, sometimes way longer, and eventually you do the same thing for some other beings you call children to somehow justify it. If you're male they may not even have half of your genes.
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    If you want to blame anyone for what doing this kind of thing costs, why not blame the companies that set and/or drive up the prices?

    Drug companies, companies that make machines that go "bing", insurance companies. It's not Government with its snout in the trough, it's these guys. And the system they work in encourages the behaviour, since investors want returns and profit is all that counts.

    If you think it cannot be done, that it's just economics and how it has to be to cover costs etc, check out this competition to make an affordable dialysis machine. The Affordable Dialysis Prize. Win US$100K. | The George Institute for Global Health

    If you couldn't be bothered to read it, here's the summary. Dialysis machines cost somewhere in the vicinity of 10,000-20,000 USD. Plus they need to be attached to elaborate water purification systems which cost about the same again. Then there's running costs.

    The competition requires, among other things, that the machine developed costs no more than 1,000USD to manufacture! They think it is possible. If that's even ballpark achievable, my question is how much bloat, complacency, sheer greed is there in the traditional medical industry? Oh I know it's all R&D costs, the profit these companies make is so small we ought to just call them charities....

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    Smart people KNOW when they are being SCAMMED.
    YOU GET WHAT YOU PAID FOR.
    Google has learned lobbyists are cheaper than lawyers. If those are the rules of the game Google has a duty to their shareholders to win.

    At least I know where I stand with the corporation, the government treats me the same and lies about it.

    Isn't it truly amazing, the things that can be done to a society of weak, gullible, sheep who seem to have no limit to the amount of abuse they will tolerate.

    I am being set up for a slaughter. You can see this one coming a mile away.
    There is no free lunch
    And if it sounds to good to be true, it usually is. Make the masses fat lazy and stupid.
    Then Wham dont load Americas EBT card and No Social Security payment for just one month.
    See what happens.
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    While their entire country is being bankrupted, hollowed out, and flooded with illegal immigrants as Obama announces that he will ignore Congress and pursue his agenda via dictatorial executive fiat, Americans remain unmoved.


    The only things that get them in the least bit animated are Black Friday sales and NFL football games.
    When a civilization reaches this point of decadence,
    a Roman Empire-style collapse is soon to follow
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigspendur View Post
    If all these guys had their way
    What guys? the same boogeymen we have to take the country back from?
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