Thread: President of the US of A

Originally Posted by thebigspendur

Notice they haven't said anything about Carter.

Carter is not running for president either.

Originally Posted by thebigspendur

She had the personal one for her convenience.

Nah, it's much more inconvenient to hire people to run an email server than just use the ones that are already set up and ran by the government.

I don't think there is some big conspiracy - she simply wanted to prevent her political opponents from scrutinizing her emails for attack material. All of us have been around long enough to know how these things are done.

May be she endangered the national security, may be she didn't, but she isn't stupid and I think she deliberately tried to keep the sensitive stuff through the official government channels. Most likely she was pretty effective at that because if there were something big or important I'd think we'd know for sure by now after all those congressional investigations.

What I am pretty sure is that increasing the level of nastiness isn't making America any better. Even if your clan wins.

Actually she should be treated like any other government employee regarding classified material.

Originally Posted by honedright

I suppose it all depends on how one defines the greatness of a country.

For instance, do you realize that every human, in every country on earth, has the same basic unalienable rights as those mentioned in the Declaration of Independence and in the Constitution/ Bill of Rights? And that the United States is the first and only country in the history of human governance who's laws specifically recognize, and then protect, for it's citizens, each and every one of those rights, as well as others not mentioned, from governmental infringement? No other country does, or has ever done, that. In fact, most countries today, and all throughout history, have allowed their governments to ignore and blatantly stomp all over their citizen's natural rights, and allow them to exercise only those rights deemed agreeable.

Now, doesn't just that one thing alone make the United States a great country?

I guess that is your definition of a great country. Mine would be being proud to be an American. I am not there at this time. I am one of those who feel the government does not act in the best interest of its citizens. And I have to tell you the last few months this Obama is just dreadful with his actions. No I am not looking for government to solve any of my problems. I just want a fair chance. This is the first time I voted in 7 years so I know where the nay sayers are coming from. I swore I would not vote again until some real political change took place. I think this might be a start not the end but a start. On November 8th I will cast my vote for Trump and sleep soundly. If Clinton becomes President then I think the people will get what they deserve.

Yep great country, just a bunch of not so great politicians bankrupting our system spending other people's money. Give a corrupt person a checkbook with out any restrictions and this is what you will have, GREED! The only way to get us back on track is to stop excessive spending on programs designed to encourage laziness, and deceit. Stop spending on illegals! Notice the word"Illegal" how can that be wrong to expect my Represenatives to responsible with our financial security.

It doesn't matter who we get, the runaway spending and the big government " TIT" needs to get under control, so who are you going to vote for? The woman who proposes to spend more on bigger government, or the guy who will probably do the same to a lesser extent? At least one of them does know that you need to stop freebies.


It's a sad country that really don't have any real Americans who wish to serve as our Represenatives without the self serving greed they all have.

Tc

Originally Posted by tcrideshd

Yep great country, just a bunch of not so great politicians bankrupting our system spending other people's money. Give a corrupt person a checkbook with out any restrictions and this is what you will have, GREED! The only way to get us back on track is to stop excessive spending on programs designed to encourage laziness, and deceit. Stop spending on illegals! Notice the word"Illegal" how can that be wrong to expect my Represenatives to responsible with our financial security.

It doesn't matter who we get, the runaway spending and the big government " TIT" needs to get under control, so who are you going to vote for? The woman who proposes to spend more on bigger government, or the guy who will probably do the same to a lesser extent? At least one of them does know that you need to stop freebies.


It's a sad country that really don't have any real Americans who wish to serve as our Represenatives without the self serving greed they all have.

Tc

We get what we vote for.

From the mid 20th Century the economics of this country were based on the premise that you take the average citizen and allow him enough affluence to own his own home, send his kids to college, drive a late model care, go on vacation and have a basic retirement and average joe is happy. He doesn't care about the rich or corruption or big government.

So the rich have gotten too greedy and this formula is broken. So average joe ain't happy cause he can't attain these things. So now he's looking at things to blame. Maybe big government, maybe runaway spending, maybe Govt debt, maybe illegal aliens, maybe the other political party, maybe this and maybe that.

You all want change? You already got it in spades and you're going to get more and you won't like any of it and sending people to Washington unwilling to compromise trying to "take back the Govt" and make other folks live according to someone else's religion or morals won't help things.

You want small govt like we had in say 1860 with it you get the life folks back then lived and the conditions that existed.

All these things people demand now, if it came to pass people would really be mad.

People don't know what they want. Their just a bunch of sheep being led around by their nose.

So you're a Trumpanzee eh?

Originally Posted by thebigspendur

From the mid 20th Century the economics of this country were based on the premise that you take the average citizen and allow him enough affluence to own his own home, send his kids to college, drive a late model care, go on vacation and have a basic retirement and average joe is happy. He doesn't care about the rich or corruption or big government.

So the rich have gotten too greedy and this formula is broken. So average joe ain't happy cause he can't attain these things. So now he's looking at things to blame. Maybe big government, maybe runaway spending, maybe Govt debt, maybe illegal aliens, maybe the other political party, maybe this and maybe that.

You all want change? You already got it in spades and you're going to get more and you won't like any of it and sending people to Washington unwilling to compromise trying to "take back the Govt" and make other folks live according to someone else's religion or morals won't help things.

You want small govt like we had in say 1860 with it you get the life folks back then lived and the conditions that existed.

All these things people demand now, if it came to pass people would really be mad.

People don't know what they want. Their just a bunch of sheep being led around by their nose.

So you're a Trumpanzee eh?

Yes and it was called the "trickle down theory." Anyone old enough to remember that great joke played on the middle class Americans?

Make the rich so rich that their money overflowed down to us like scraps off a table. Only problem with it, is that no one told the rich to let some of it go. They kept every friggin dime...

Originally Posted by honedright

We get what we vote for.

Trouble is we have slim pickings election after election. Seems I am always voting for the 'lesser of two evils.' What will be really funny is if Bernie Sanders ends up the dem nominee and wins the election !

Originally Posted by Suticat

Yes and it was called the "trickle down theory." Anyone old enough to remember that great joke played on the middle class Americans?

Make the rich so rich that their money overflowed down to us like scraps off a table. Only problem with it, is that no one told the rich to let some of it go. They kept every friggin dime...

That had nothing to do with the trickle down theory. It was just the way things were. it was the result of the Union Movement and the idea of the social contract.

The trickle down theory widely revered by many has been tried time and time again and it has never worked though some keep believing in it.