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    Quote Originally Posted by honedright View Post
    But so far it seems he just wants to create jobs by building infrastructure, which usually means more taxes.
    Well, building infrastructure could be beneficial for the economy. Or not, it depends on the infrastructure its costs and its benefits.

    It certainly seems that the southern wall infrastructure project got a lot of people got behind him, so beneficial or not it is at least fairly popular.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kmcmichael View Post
    Fair enough, a republic is governed by the rule of law i.e. A constitution.
    A democracy is governed by the votes of the people.
    This isn't enough of a distinction to warrant comparisons, because of the big overlap between these two categories.

    Which you noted with:
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    The US is a democratic republic as it has elements of both.
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    The term representative democracy is redundant as is constitutional republic
    I am not quite sure about this. A direct democracy is different from representative democracy. In the first you chose representatives to make decisions on your behalf, in the second everybody votes on every decision.
    And I don't see why a republic needs to have a constitution which is the overarching framework. Couldn't you simply make laws as it is necessary? Governing by written law, as opposed to say the judgement of appointed or elected officials doesn't seem to require a constitutional framework.
    For example, what was the constitution of the Roman Republic? As far as I know there wasn't anything formal like in the USA but precedents and principles evolved over time. I think that form of government is still considered republic - it succeeded a monarchy and was followed by empire (in many ways a monarchy).

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    And here comes the next nail in the Clinton Coffin..

    Elizabeth "Cherokee Un-Nation, I haven't done anything in the Senate" Warren

    Yeah I am liking Trump more and more...

    Spokane:
    Dozens of Trump protesters vs nearly 10,000 Trump supporters,, no problems, and talk on the PNW social media pages was funny
    "Way too many 7B and 9B plates driving in, for the rally" Hehehehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by gugi View Post
    The only problem is that he isn't their employer.
    It's the voters in the congressional district, or the state, who can elect a different representative/senator at the end of their term if they aren't happy with how they're doing the job.

    Just as an example - this past week the republican voters of Indiana nominated Donald Trump for president and the sitting representative from the 9th congressional district for senator.

    The US Constitution is very clear and the Supreme Court has always upheld that the executive branch cannot meddle in the legislative. Trump has to work with Congress, which he understands very well given his recent remarks.
    I didn't convey that well. Sorry. I do know he can't fire them for real but can't you just see him come on stage and say the words anyway.

    You're all FIRED!!!

    That would be a priceless moment.
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    Came across this post on Twitter this morning..

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    But... Donald Trump is orange.
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    You say there is not enough distinction to matter between a democracy and a republic then you try to make great distinctions between a democracy and a representative democracy...as a moderator you should block me now and use that advantage.

    The essential difference is that everyone has rights as opposed to the ruling majority. This is huge. Democracies always fail. It is simple human nature. As soon as the majority realizes they can vote themselves funds from the government, it collapses.

    Thinking that some judge should be able to hold sway over decisions without written law to guide is not acceptable. I cannot fathom such a system. You have way to much faith in your fellow man or no understanding of human nature.

    Btw I could not get the quote thing.

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    Sorry to inform you but Obama is not running against Trump and the racism card has been thrown too many times to be any kind of argument. Why don't you take a wild stab and look at the issues? The democrats want more socialism to get votes; the republicans, though self serving in their own way, want more of a free society.

    Besides I know a lot of lawyers and businessmen. Most are hard workers but as far as saying that a lawyer is more intelligent in general, no way.
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    After reading my threads, I find much sarcasm...not my intent, apologies.

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    One thing I'm expecting, is for the Trump camp to get Monica Lewinsky, or use some of her interviews, she quite clearly states that her personal life and career was destroyed, Hilary called Lewinsky a, "narcissistic loony tune" and pretty much trashed a young intern, not the definition of sticking up for "women" in the opinion of many, and certainly not the same treatment the feminist crowd dealt out to Bob Packwood. Even though Bill Clinton was a serial philanderer, clearly committed sexual harassment as the President with a young intern (power imbalance), and the many other instances, Hilary sought to silence and destroy those women who spoke out against Bill.

    That's not supporting women.

    Just an outside observation, let alone the Elizabeth Warren Cherokee claim, which outraged the First Nation people who found no documentation whatsoever linking her ancestry. The only connection Elizabeth has is her statement of "high cheekbones". Remember, she made this claim long before the internet, when her status would only appear on internal University written lists. Her husband was hired at an Ivy League school, they wouldn't hire her, suddenly she ticks off the "Native North American" box, husband goes back to the University, suddenly she has a job at an Ivy League school, then Harvard, all essentially based on a lie.

    Certainly will be lots of material for the Trump camp to use....and from here in Canada, we saw the Anderson Cooper question where he basically called Hilary out on flip-flopping on positions, how did he state his question, "You will say anything to get elected?"

    Trump has his share of baggage as well, no doubt about it, it's going to be a fascinating process to watch. There will be much mud.

    Now Twitter is heavily trending with the #DropOutHillary hashtag, seeing as the FBI is conducting an investigation on a candidate actually running for the POTUS...the Bernie folks and Clinton folks are having their own battle, Bernie supporters protesting at Clinton events.....interesting times indeed.
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