Thread: Apple's stand against the Feds

Originally Posted by rhensley

Have you lost family members to terrorist. Would you feel the same way if you did loose a family member. We have hackers out there that get into the personal info of a lot of people. Wouldn't it be in the best interest of humanity to help stop terrorist. Wouldn't that be a feather in Apples hat. I'm all for privacy but if i have info. or can help gather info to help stop even one terrorist attack i would gladly help. Now this is just my opinion each person is entitled to theirs.

People like Tim Cook have no need for feathers in their hats,,, they would rather have a dollar in the wallet.

Originally Posted by rhensley

Have you lost family members to terrorist. Would you feel the same way if you did loose a family member. We have hackers out there that get into the personal info of a lot of people. Wouldn't it be in the best interest of humanity to help stop terrorist. Wouldn't that be a feather in Apples hat. I'm all for privacy but if i have info. or can help gather info to help stop even one terrorist attack i would gladly help. Now this is just my opinion each person is entitled to theirs.

That's the thing, the attack already happened, so they aren't preventing anything. They would be opening up an entirely new platform for terrorism to occur. How would you feel if you stopped one attack, but the means used to do so led to hundreds of more attacks that wouldn't have happened.

I'm a United States Marine, so yes, I've lost family to terrorists. I despise the tactics they use. I wish it was possible to wipe them all out in one go. The problem is that isn't possible. Terrorists are people, with families and friends. For every one you kill, you create a dozen more seeking revenge...

Originally Posted by Hirlau

People like Tim Cook have no need for feathers in their hats,,, they would rather have a dollar in the wallet.

A what if question. If Mr. Cooks son daughter or grand child was held by kid nappers and the kidnappers lost there apple phone in the process. I wonder how quick Mr. Cook would create a back door. The US is suppose to be a nation of laws. If the police went through the correct process in obtaining the the legal order then Mr. Cook should comply. again just my opinion. When the very rich or political elite thumb there noises at the legal system they should be held accountable. again just my opinion.

Originally Posted by prodigy

That's the thing, the attack already happened, so they aren't preventing anything. They would be opening up an entirely new platform for terrorism to occur. How would you feel if you stopped one attack, but the means used to do so led to hundreds of more attacks that wouldn't have happened.

I'm a United States Marine, so yes, I've lost family to terrorists. I despise the tactics they use. I wish it was possible to wipe them all out in one go. The problem is that isn't possible. Terrorists are people, with families and friends. For every one you kill, you create a dozen more seeking revenge...

There have been wars there is a war now and there will be wars in the future. History has proved that. I wish it weren't so. Your a US Marine. God bless you and all service men and women. Be ever watchful .

As I read through the post by Tim Cook, part of the rational used is that by creating a solid back door it leaves a point for hacking as well. It is not as simple as to just them having access. I would think that it will take more consideration than just about the FBI having access. If it was simply the FBI and there was some guarantee that it would be absolutely only the law authorities in our country that could exercise this access, they can have it. As for it being a security risk, that is where I get a little apprehensive.

Completely ridiculous that anyone in our government can demand a company that is ran by someone other than the government and had nothing to do with the crime to do anything. They simply sold a phone to a cell phone provider, that sold it to a individual. If the FBI can't break into a phone, maybe they should look at hiring some new folks. Slippery slope to say the least. All bad IMO. Even more so if the criminals were alive. They should also work on hiring the right amount of people. They are terribly undermanned and the government doesn't seem to be doing anything about it. They want want want when its convenient but god forbid they do anything in a timely manner that helps the country.

You guys talk about the all mighty dollar... take a look at your government before we talk about others and money.

Originally Posted by prodigy

That's the thing, the attack already happened, so they aren't preventing anything. They would be opening up an entirely new platform for terrorism to occur. How would you feel if you stopped one attack, but the means used to do so led to hundreds of more attacks that wouldn't have happened.

I'm a United States Marine, so yes, I've lost family to terrorists. I despise the tactics they use. I wish it was possible to wipe them all out in one go. The problem is that isn't possible. Terrorists are people, with families and friends. For every one you kill, you create a dozen more seeking revenge...

I'm a Marine too,,, but we are sliding off topic just a little.

Originally Posted by prodigy

That's the thing, the attack already happened, so they aren't preventing anything. They would be opening up an entirely new platform for terrorism to occur. How would you feel if you stopped one attack, but the means used to do so led to hundreds of more attacks that wouldn't have happened.

I'm a United States Marine, so yes, I've lost family to terrorists. I despise the tactics they use. I wish it was possible to wipe them all out in one go. The problem is that isn't possible. Terrorists are people, with families and friends. For every one you kill, you create a dozen more seeking revenge...

Nailed it.

Originally Posted by Hirlau

I'm a Marine too,,, but we are sliding off topic just a little.

It's spot on, I was asked a very personal question and I answered it.

Your off topic with the opening post,,,,,