Thread: Apple's stand against the Feds

If info on the phone could lead to a terrorist cell and prevent another 911 or the attack in Paris or help in a broader way against terrorism i think it should happen. As far as the government wanting and wasting more I hold our politicians responsible for that and ultimately ourselves for voting them in and keeping them there forever. Everyone has there opinion on this matter with good points. pro and con. For me it has been a good way to vent.

Where do we draw the line on our rights to privacy? I,m for almost anything to prevent or apprehend these so called people. But at what cost?, we find it outrageous to torture these people to get this info, but we are now willing to give our sacred right to privacy away to do the same. What a world we live in, but if Apple is in the wrong, then who is in the right?, we can go at this for all of eternity and the fight against terrorism can only be won by the side who is willing to part with their humanity to win. Off my soapbox now, cause I get riled up pretty easy when it comes to things like this. Tc

Wow, really?? My first paragraph was spot on with the opening post. I know, why don't you go through every thread and quote every person, every time they say something off topic from the OP. Come let me know when your done. Tim Cook will probably still be standing up for what's right by the time you're done.

Looks like you have lost the ability to communicate friend,,,,,,,

There's nothing in my iPhone or yours,, that's worth a human life,,, bottom line.

Originally Posted by Hirlau

Looks like you have lost the ability to communicate friend,,,,,,,

There's nothing in my iPhone or yours,, that's worth a human life,,, bottom line.

Their is nothing on my phone or anyone else that the government deserves to have access to if they can't get it themselves because they deem it necessary to save a life. More importantly my freedoms shall not be taken because the government wants it their way. I have seen bloodshed first hand and I am not entertained by their "needs". All the men who died in a war for this country would differ that it is in fact worth a life. Privacy is freedom at the very root.

Originally Posted by Redcane

Their is nothing on my phone or anyone else that the government deserves to have access to if they can't get it themselves because they deem it necessary to save a life. More importantly my freedoms shall not be taken because the government wants it their way. I have seen bloodshed first hand and I am not entertained by their "needs". All the men who died in a war for this country would differ that it is in fact worth a life. Privacy is freedom at the very root.

A couple of things need to be understood here before we get back to the letter at hand & the tactics being used on both sides to get what they want.
This is not a chest beating contest on Patriotism,,, I too am a veteran, from a long line of veterans, we have seen it all too.
The government is not my enemy now, nor when I actively served. The same men & women who work for the government we are bashing here, have veterans in some of their families.
Don't put words in the mouths of our dead to justify an opinion here, not right,,, not fair to me & others to who believe as I do, on the letter.

I would like to think that I am wrong but...

I think Apple has a back door and they use it. I would be surprised if they haven't already given the government access. I think it is just posturing by Apple to be able to say the government made me do it.

I consider anything I do that involves a computer and that includes my TV and my refrigerator,,,,,, is public knowledge.

Blackberry was told by several governments all over the world to hand over access to their encryption system. Blackberry said....no way. It all boils down to privacy rights of an individual whether we like it or not. With great power comes responsibility too. I have nothing to hide on my PC or smart phone.... but I no one has the right or business in looking what I do have on my personal devices either unless they were used to commit a crime. Big time grey area. Privacy of an individual or security and safety of a nation? That is the question. If Apple does find a way to bust into this phone.... They would be best to keep it very quiet and it's dumb that the FBI advertised this in the first place. Not very covert.

In regard to the letter, I truly believe that the "government " already has the capability to breach the Apple encryption. I'm quite sure the NSA has everything that iPhone in question can yield.

The FBI, may not have access to it or more likely they do & they will need the subpoena process to be successful to preserve the integrity of the investigation as it goes further.

If others are brought forward into criminal prosecution, there is an endless line of attorneys waiting to cut their teeth on this action.

Apple has to put up his front for marketing purposes & they have done well by pitting Patriots against each other as we are here,,, over an important right such as privacy,,, so sad.

Originally Posted by 32t

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I consider anything I do that involves a computer and that includes my TV and my refrigerator,,,,,, is public knowledge.

Just don't look in my closet,,,,,