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    Quote Originally Posted by gratewhitehuntr View Post
    two things

    Bruno
    No a slug is not safer in the house
    most OO buck (which is .32 caliber) will fail to penetrate a (decent) car door fully
    maybe 1 or 2 slips through but are very deformed and with little remaining energy

    a slug should penetrate 4 or 5 of the same car door easily
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    GW,
    no worries, i have more firarms and ammunition then you have ever dreamed of. i do not need to kill people. A glaser in the belly most likely will ruin your dinner for a few months though. and i do not have to worry about the children being in the line of the exit wound. some of us worry about innocent bystanders.
    in fact i have worried about you... let me know when you can change you signature line to "have rifle will defend 2000 meters of the border".
    Be just and fear not.

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    How about G-Hogs at 1800 meeters with a specialty pistol (ya I can dream, the guy that turned me onto LR Handgunning does it...)

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    Just a peek...
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    Quote Originally Posted by DwarvenChef View Post
    How about G-Hogs at 1800 meeters with a specialty pistol (ya I can dream, the guy that turned me onto LR Handgunning does it...)
    1800 yards? Damn, how big of a house does he have???

    LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by DwarvenChef View Post
    How about G-Hogs at 1800 meeters with a specialty pistol (ya I can dream, the guy that turned me onto LR Handgunning does it...)
    i can ony do about 800 yards here, off the back deck the local range maxes at 1200
    i cannot see a ground hog and 1800 so i'm out of my league. hell i'ld be lucky to find a the broadside of my barn at that range
    Be just and fear not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by syslight View Post
    i can ony do about 800 yards here, off the back deck the local range maxes at 1200
    i cannot see a ground hog and 1800 so i'm out of my league. hell i'ld be lucky to find a the broadside of my barn at that range
    I can see just fine at 800 or 1800 yards, it's 18 inches that is beginning to give me trouble.

    /damn print getting smaller

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    Interesting story:
    Resident faces intruders with rifle, cell phone

    Weldon Johnson and Colleen Sparks
    The Arizona Republic
    Jul. 10, 2007 02:37 PM
    When Ahwatukee Ryan Altieri heard knocking at the door of his quiet townhouse Monday evening he thought it might be a salesman.

    Turns out it wasn't anything nearly as innocent.

    At about 6:45, two men kicked in the door at Altieri's townhouse on Piedmont Road, near Guadalupe and 48th Street. Instead of an empty home, however, the intruders came face to face with Altieri - holding a cellphone and a rifle.




    "I was in the bathroom when I thought I heard a knock," Altieri said. "They knocked for about three minutes, I guess trying to make sure nobody was home, then they started kicking the door in. So I got my cellphone and went into my bedroom and loaded my rifle."

    Altieri, 27, said he was on the phone with the 911 operator when two intruders burst through the door. The intruders walked in on Altieri kneeling with his rifle trained on them and the cellphone at his ear.

    "They saw me and started stuttering," Altieri said. "I said, 'One more step and you're done.'"

    The men ran away, leaving their car behind. One suspect, a 17-year-old, was caught soon afterward. Police are still looking for the second intruder, a man believed to be in his 30s, according to Phoenix police Sgt. Leonard Pinuelas. Nothing was taken from the home.

    Altieri said he has lived in the condo for about a year. He lives toward the rear of the complex, near Guadalupe Road and 48th Street, and described it as quiet.

    He said he was surprised that anyone would try to break in at that time of day.

    Altieri said that while he was glad he had his rifle to protect himself, he had hoped he didn't have to shoot the intruders.

    "But you don't know what the hell is behind that door," he said.

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    what an idiot
    He should have shot the sumbitches

    never point a weapon at anything you don't intend to kill
    never hesitate on the shot
    God hates a coward

    Like they won't do it again?

    of course they did knock a while to make sure no one was home
    even better reason to kill them

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    Quote Originally Posted by gratewhitehuntr View Post
    what an idiot
    He should have shot the sumbitches

    never point a weapon at anything you don't intend to kill
    never hesitate on the shot
    God hates a coward

    Like they won't do it again?

    of course they did knock a while to make sure no one was home
    even better reason to kill them
    Can you live with the idea of shooting someone in cold blood? I know I can't.
    If they had advanced he'd have had no choice, but they ran away.

    I don't know how the law is in your state, but over here, shooting them when they were running away would have gotten you a murder charge.
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