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Dont forget, if any nato country gets involved in Ukraine, that doesnt mean the US will follow you. I can repeat much of what was said here. But will make one point. Europes military weakness invites aggression. "We stand with Ukraine" but we will send you warm blankets and croissants, no arms as we dont have enough for ourselves.
You compare a team captain with the president of the U.S as some sort of justification? Boy are we in trouble.Quote:
Originally Posted by PaulFLUS
Yea and the same with Jimmy Carter. You think that fact made him a great President? Maybe there were no major wars but Trumps incoherent foreign policy and constant escalations of tension just brought more instability to the world. It's the old death by 1000 cuts.Quote:
Originally Posted by PaulFLUS
Once again, you compare sports to world affairs. Bragging in sports and bravado is the way it is. Mohammad Ali was famous for it. Much of it is looked at as theater. What Trump does ain't no theater. When he says something you had better believe it. Too many in this country including "the media" have never understood him.Quote:
Originally Posted by PaulFLUS
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Originally Posted by thebigspendur
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Originally Posted by welshwizard
Wait lets repeat that againQuote:
Originally Posted by PaulFLUS
The wars with Russia were not started on Trump's watch are you guys seriously that delusional ???
They just keep saying it Paul
Then comes the religion of the left "Just wait and see"
No. I compare your irrational hatred for him to a bunch of guys who hate people who are more accomplished than them. Jealous slandery is an ugly thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by thebigspendur
Who is it that misunderstands world affairs really? Remember a little charade called The Cuban Missle Crisis? Point of fact, the entire Cold War was theater. ALL politics is theater.Quote:
Originally Posted by thebigspendur
Not only that, the last Joint Session of Congress and all those chinanagins the dems pulled was like Monty Python : theater of the absurd.
They did, in 1917 comrade. It's the same old tired, "evil capitalists," mantra the left has been spewing for over a century. That has got to be uncomfortable with the proletariat secretary's arm up the back of your shirt there Mortimer. When will you figure out that he is the only one making any money and has just replaced the emperialists. It has all been debunked before so I won't waste server space rehashing trickle down economics. I know you lefties hate and bash it but it has been proven. LOOK AT THE RECORD.Quote:
Originally Posted by thebigspendur
Don't you get it? This is the script handed to the "useful idiots." It's been their trump card ever since the bolsheviks staged their coup with Lenin as their new czar. Fortunately the left is losing its grasp on the propaganda machine and, thanks to social media (who'd have thought you'd ever hear that) the people have their own voice. The American people have rejected it. Our Trump trumps their trump card.
Har har Reagan. He's the guy we all get to thank for our economic mess. Remember trickle down economics? How's that little ditty turned out for you? Don't forget the "World Economy". According to Big Ron all those terrible factory jobs will leave the U.S (along with the good pay and union benefits) and move to Asia. But don't despair boys and girls because they will all be replaced by high tech and great high paying jobs and we'll train the factory workers to fill those jobs. How's that worked out. It gave us "The rust belt" and all those workers are now working in Walmart or McDonalds enjoying their great pay and benefits.
Yea another great production brought to us by the GOP.
Maybe our current fearless leader can outdo him. He's on the road to.
The Cuban Missile Crisis a "Charade"? What wack job conspiracy idiot's got your ear? I clearly remember living through that and most of the country both left and right didn't know from day to day whether it was the end for all of us.Quote:
Originally Posted by PaulFLUS
Deals were made between Kennedy and Nikita Krushchev, many we are only recently finding out about.
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You should take that one on the road. I think you're confusing him with your boy slick willy and that nafta debaucle.
As far as Cuban Missile Crisis, ever see a game of chicken? Dangerous game, scares the crap out of everybody but neither one wants a head on. Don't blink or flinch but charade none the less.
Well there you go again, har har that old transference trick you righties love to use.
If you check your history books you'll see it was Ronald Reagan that did all that. Oh wait it's really fake news.
History books written by whom?
Are these the books with the stories about George Washington throwing a silver dollar across the Patomic and chopping down the cherry tree?
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You mean like you Lefties all recently claiming to be Independants ?? (Yes You did it yourself)
All of a sudden realizing that the Cryptkeeper President wasn't the "Best Biden Ever"
Well there YOU go again. (Remember who said that?) Now you be clairvoyant. You know how I vote and my opinions on everything. Maybe you should work at the White House.Quote:
Originally Posted by gssixgun
As far as Biden goes it was obvious to the world he had serious issues at the debate and before that. But I'm sure you'll say "you're just saying that now".
:rofl2: I have ZERO doubt that you would have still voted for himQuote:
Originally Posted by thebigspendur
Interestingly his entire presidency has a pretty good chance of being completely nullified,,, What is that legal term ???? Oh yeah Elder Abuse
Personally I hope you lefties keep doing all the same things as you are now,,, 28 will be an even bigger slaughter than 24 was..
Prediction = Rubio in 28 see if I am right
You don't think it will be Vance? If it's not I say Desantis, another Floridian. His term limit will have run out by then.
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No new developments in the peace process, Trump miscalculated by thinking Vald & Vol actually wanted to stop the killing..
President Trump has miscalculated so much; why miss the Ukraine situation out?Quote:
Originally Posted by gssixgun
Miscalculate? Trump? Sacre Bleu! Trump has it all figured out in his head along with how the entire Universe operates. He's just waiting for his chance to reveal his secret plan.Quote:
Originally Posted by welshwizard
In a joint statement on Norad modernization issued the US and Canada agreed to take certain steps to the end on 17 Aug 2021.
https://www.defense.gov/News/Release...modernization/
In a June 2022 statement Canada had this to say about modernizing Norad.
https://www.canada.ca/en/department-...timelines.html
Then there is this statement from the Canadian government about acquiring new over the horizon radar from Australia as part of the already agreed to modernization of Norad.
https://www.pm.gc.ca/en/news/backgro...reignty-arctic
This having over the horizon radar capabilities appears to have been agreed to prior to Rump announcing his Golden Dome scheme. The over the horizon radar is an essential part of modernizing Norad and an integral part of the Golden Dome scheme. Without these types of radars installed in Canada the effectiveness to the US of these radars is greatly reduced by leaving a gap in the depth of coverage afforded to the US.
Tell me again that the US doesn't need Canada and Canada was involved in what would be part of the Golden Dome scheme well before Rump arrived on the scene. No real need to ask Rump about, eh.
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Tell me again when Russia invaded ??Quote:
Originally Posted by thebigspendur
Under which administrations
Just wondering if you delusional people actually know when it happened, and when it did NOT ???
After over 3 years only one person has even tried for peace... TRUMP !!!! but hey it hasn't happened in a few months so he is at Fault ??? That is some amazing projection
The US has no treaty with Ukraine. Europe doesnt either. But since its in Europes backyard its their problem to solve. End of story. Obviously Europe is not committing the resources or diplomacy or sanctions to make a difference. So whatever happens happens, Its on them. A regional issue. Yes I know Russia started it. Dramatic speeches and pledges to stand with Ukraine wont do it either. China is a big supplier of weapons but heaven forbid they sanction or tariff china for this. So its all talk. I feel for them obviously but history repeats itself.
Yea, it's in Europe's backyard so it's their problem, end of story. The same as when Germany attacked Poland. That was Europe's backyard too. Their problem. Many in the U.S felt exactly that way. If we had never joined in how would that have worked out???Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill31521
Why are you guys so fixated on who was Pres when Russia invaded Ukraine? What would you have had Obama do? Invade Russia? Send troops to Ukraine. He tried a stepped approach with sanctions against Russia.
I know you guys love to point fingers. OK you win. Obama did nothing, Biden did nothing. Luckily we have fearless leader and just as he promised he ended that war in a day, before he even became President. Wow, what a guy.
Because you seem to think it is his fault it ain't fixed yet..Quote:
Originally Posted by thebigspendur
Only mistake Trump made was miscalculting that they actually wanted peace or at least a cease fire
I gotta agree at this point in time the US needs to back away with Money, Supplies, and any Diplomacy, they want to kill each other for another 3 years they might be ready to ask for help instead of money..
Dumbest thing I keep hearing is the word "Sanctions" nobody cares to enforce them anyway
It isnt 1939. If the EU did an embargo on any country doing business with Russia the war would end instead of buying all their energy from them for years and years essentially funding the war they claim they are so against. And the EU cant fight a conventional war, so that means if something happens it will have to go nuclear. And then its all over. ANd a meeting with Macron and Putin could potentially lead to Putin teaching him how to deal with getting slapped around in public by his wife. That scene is making the Russians shake in their boots. :rofl2:Quote:
Originally Posted by thebigspendur
I wonder what it will be when Trump actually does get them to stop fighting. Now he's a bully???Not soon enough??? Who knows? It won't be the right thing no matter what it is that's for sure.
Another sure thing is Zelensky needs to stop smack talking.
Like it or not "the world" he accuses of "going on a weekend break" is his only hope of peace and biting the hand that feeds is not encouraging anyone to champion his cause.
Yep. Stop buying Russian oil and it all implodes. That's what Trump is doing in the middle east. Get the world oil price low enough and it breaks the bank for Russia. Funny, it may be that the best thing the US can do to facilitate an end to it is produce our own oil. What a conundrum for the American left.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill31521
The left hates musk so they prefer to buy a Chinese electric car. That means they are more aligned with communist china than an american auto maker.
The North America car market has been slow to move towards electric cars in general. Most Merican car makers have cut back on production of electric cars and eliminated some as a consequence. Take a closer look at where some of the parts to make Merican eclectic cars come from, and you'd likely see China as a supplier.Quote:
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There are more than enough reasons to dislike Musk other than his electric cars.
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Maybe you didnt see the news reports of leftists burning and vandalizing teslas.
Yup, saw Teslas being burned and vandalized. I really don't care whose side does things like that and for what reasons as that is beyond normal protesting and should not be condoned.Quote:
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Looks like Trump struck a nerve
Dissolution of Canada is popping up all over the place, From Media to Social Media
Dozens of articles like this out there
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/wes...nomy-1.7524422
Well, we have been dealing with Quebec wanting to separate for a long and they haven't despite having elected to our Parliament members of a separatist party. I would not be overly concerned about Canada as the US has more than enough going on to wonder about its future as a country.Quote:
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Bahahahahahaha Of course Bob projects, Whaaaaaaa Trump !!!!!!:soapbox:Quote:
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How about something intelligent next time but of course that is hard to do the minute Rump enters the equation.Quote:
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Bahahahaha What a well thought out answerQuote:
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Bob it isn't Trump saying Canada is going their separate ways, it is your fellow countrymen
We have the same thing here but so far most just wanna Shift Rural
Eastern Wa Eastern OR want to be part of Idaho
Now during the Clinton era, yes there was the Big 5 ready to say bye bye to federal laws, I doubt you know what I am talking about because it wasn't national/international news like the Canada issue is today
Oooooo maybe Ottawa will try and actually ban Trump from attending the G7, and Premier Danielle Smith will get a huge wind at her back for secession hehehehe
ps: Bob do you really think I would even know who she was if the news wasn't at the top of multiple feeds
https://edmontonjournal.com/news/pol...e-vote-in-2026
Yeah, don't forget the US actually knows what secession is like. It's not just rhetoric over here.
Say what you want about the reasons, but the real reason is that we actually have the stones to do it. Some things really are worth fighting for.
