Thread: The Ukraine Situation

OMG it actually looks like Trump is moving the peace talks forward

We have both sides talking about a Cease Fire again

We shall see

Originally Posted by thebigspendur

My party?

I think I've said this before and you didn't believe me then but I'll repeat it now I am not a democrat. Purely Independent. I vote for whoever I think will do the job regardless of party.

That is truly the funniest thing I have read in the last 377 posts but it is a new thing among Dems all claiming to be Independent now

I don't blame you

Originally Posted by gssixgun

That is truly the funniest thing I have read in the last 377 posts but it is a new thing among Dems all claiming to be Independent now

I don't blame you

Funniest thing in this thread is your response when I teased fox news crying about a stolen election. Multiple independent audits, recounts, and over 60 court cases — many overseen by Trump-appointed judges — found no credible evidence of widespread fraud. Fraud by individuals or localized attempts do not equal systematic fraud capable of flipping an election.

Originally Posted by gssixgun

We have both sides talking about a Cease Fire again

Only one side is serious about a cease fire. The other one is playing President Trump like a fiddle.

I have to give the righties credit where it's due for the consistency and total loyalty to our fearless leader. Like him, every negative thing they just lie, deny and try to deflect and use the old transference ploy to accuse the other side of the very things they are guilty of. Then they just wash their hands of their misdeeds.(this is not directed to anyone on this site by the way)

The Dems really need to learn from them.

Now go ahead and flame away guys!

Originally Posted by Christian1

Funniest thing in this thread is your response when I teased fox news crying about a stolen election. Multiple independent audits, recounts, and over 60 court cases — many overseen by Trump-appointed judges — found no credible evidence of widespread fraud. Fraud by individuals or localized attempts do not equal systematic fraud capable of flipping an election.

What I want to know is why you are so obsessed with what someone else may or may not believe. It's getting sort of like your side's obsession with Jan. 6th. You're really beating it to death. Maybe get some new material.

It is not so unusual to doubt government findings. You know that over 70 percent of people believe that the Warren Commision got it wrong...across the aisle even though their findings have been reviewed, ammended and yet ultimately reconfirmed at least 3 separate times. The majority of those people who don't believe it feel that there has been a government cover up.What is so different about that?

Aside from that, why shouldn't Republicans doubt the integrity of the Dems...oh, sorry..."Non Republicans" especially since the evidence shows they in spite of what has been said here, have been the ones shown to have interfered with or tried to unfairly influence elections. See my earlier link to the Wallstreet Journal article (and there are others) about how Hilary introduced misimformation about Russia collusion trying to steer the election. THAT'S A FACT! You conveniently leave that out. That's clearly wide spread interference with an election and the FBI ran with that BS to interfere with Trump's administration and ultimately influenced mid terms so that's TWO elections in a row that their opposition interfererd with. So, tell me why Republicans should not doubt the findings?

Originally Posted by thebigspendur

I have to give the righties credit where it's due for the consistency and total loyalty to our fearless leader. Like him, every negative thing they just lie, deny and try to deflect and use the old transference ploy to accuse the other side of the very things they are guilty of. Then they just wash their hands of their misdeeds.(this is not directed to anyone on this site by the way)

The Dems really need to learn from them.

Now go ahead and flame away guys!

Let me have your address. I have a mirror I want to send you.

Originally Posted by Christian1

Funniest thing in this thread is your response when I teased fox news crying about a stolen election. Multiple independent audits, recounts, and over 60 court cases — many overseen by Trump-appointed judges — found no credible evidence of widespread fraud. Fraud by individuals or localized attempts do not equal systematic fraud capable of flipping an election.

Originally Posted by gssixgun

Cue the no "Widespread Voter Fraud" cliche'

Damn I still got the touch "Put the needle on the record, Put the needle on the record when the drum beat goes like this"
Right on cue,

I doubt many will know the lyric in there

Originally Posted by PaulFLUS

What I want to know is why you are so obsessed with what someone else may or may not believe. It's getting sort of like your side's obsession with Jan. 6th. You're really beating it to death. Maybe get some new material.

It is not so unusual to doubt government findings. You know that over 70 percent of people believe that the Warren Commision got it wrong...across the aisle even though their findings have been reviewed, ammended and yet ultimately reconfirmed at least 3 separate times. The majority of those people who don't believe it feel that there has been a government cover up.What is so different about that?

Aside from that, why shouldn't Republicans doubt the integrity of the Dems...oh, sorry..."Non Republicans" especially since the evidence shows they in spite of what has been said here, have been the ones shown to have interfered with or tried to unfairly influence elections. See my earlier link to the Wallstreet Journal article (and there are others) about how Hilary introduced misimformation about Russia collusion trying to steer the election. THAT'S A FACT! You conveniently leave that out. That's clearly wide spread interference with an election and the FBI ran with that BS to interfere with Trump's administration and ultimately influenced mid terms so that's TWO elections in a row that their opposition interfererd with. So, tell me why Republicans should not doubt the findings?

The think the 2020 election is a a topic that will help me quickly understand what type of person I am talking to. With the response you and Glen gave, I understand how the Ukraine discussion would go. If I want to listen to that cookie cutter opinion I can just turn on fox news and listen to the stories with a fact or two sprinkled in. I know someone else said they were dependent, but I will say I am a Democrat. I will pass to people quoting the Bible and random song verses when they don't have a real response. Cheers though and hopefully the war comes to an end.

Originally Posted by Christian1

The think the 2020 election is a a topic that will help me quickly understand what type of person I am talking to. With the response you and Glen gave, I understand how the Ukraine discussion would go. If I want to listen to that cookie cutter opinion I can just turn on fox news and listen to the stories with a fact or two sprinkled in. I know someone else said they were dependent, but I will say I am a Democrat. I will pass to people quoting the Bible and random song verses when they don't have a real response. Cheers though and hopefully the war comes to an end.

Hilarious timing as the DNC admits to "Procedural Issues" in their voting process

They even cheat in their own internal voting, You can't make this stuff up and make it funnier

https://nypost.com/2025/05/12/us-new...ic-vice-chair/

I warned you about Hurling Insults instead of sticking to the topic,

Speaking of random song verses I think you Dems take the cake for that

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/th...ty/vi-AA1EDYEU


Anyone want to go back to Ukraine or shall we continue with Insults ???