Thread: The Ukraine Situation

Originally Posted by gssixgun

And your opinion about it ?? your thoughts about why Russia needs it ?? or do you have no actual thoughts ??

Yup, I do have thoughts on it and originally wondered if you were under a news blackout down there considering you were surprised to hear old news.

It is war and Russia is using all the help it can get from friends/allies to ease the cost burden and increase its arms supply chain without having to build extra production capacity immediately. Not much out of the ordinary and not much to read into it.

Bob

People really think Russia is some super power. All it is is a second world outfit with nuclear weapons and the amazing thing is with all the losses in men and materiel they still have the resources to continue this war. Of course the average Russian is barely scrapping by. Have any of you ever seen reports from people inside Russia where they travel the byways away from the few large cities? people live in shacks and people literally die on the side of the road and just lay there. No one cares. Most depend on home gardens and a few livestock to survive. This while Putin (probably the true richest man in the world) with his palaces and his Oligarch friends rape the country.

There is a lesson to be learned here. How much has Trumps net worth increased since he became president? Just good luck I suppose.

Originally Posted by PaulFLUS

Is that supposed to offend me? At least I have something to quote besides the marxist media talking points. But I will no longer waste the nitrogrn in the air responding to this...what was it you called it?...cookie cutter? That about sums it up. Make sure to march in lock step like a good little bolshevik.

What are you talking about? Hogg has drawn the ire of mainstream Dems because he realizes as long as guys like Chuckie remain in power they will never win any elections so they are trying to kick him (Hogg) out. He represents the new cadre of Dems. That's all this is about.

Originally Posted by thebigspendur

What are you talking about? Hogg has drawn the ire of mainstream Dems because he realizes as long as guys like Chuckie remain in power they will never win any elections so they are trying to kick him (Hogg) out. He represents the new cadre of Dems. That's all this is about.

Quoted the wrong post

Originally Posted by Christian1

The think the 2020 election is a a topic that will help me quickly understand what type of person I am talking to. With the response you and Glen gave, I understand how the Ukraine discussion would go. If I want to listen to that cookie cutter opinion I can just turn on fox news and listen to the stories with a fact or two sprinkled in. I know someone else said they were dependent, but I will say I am a Democrat. I will pass to people quoting the Bible and random song verses when they don't have a real response. Cheers though and hopefully the war comes to an end.

Is that supposed to offend me? At least I have something to quote besides the marxist media talking points. But I will no longer waste the nitrogrn in the air responding to this...what was it you called it?...cookie cutter? That about sums it up. Make sure to march in lock step like a good little bolshevik.

Originally Posted by BobH

Yup, I do have thoughts on it and originally wondered if you were under a news blackout down there considering you were surprised to hear old news.

It is war and Russia is using all the help it can get from friends/allies to ease the cost burden and increase its arms supply chain without having to build extra production capacity immediately. Not much out of the ordinary and not much to read into it.

Bob

Originally Posted by thebigspendur

People really think Russia is some super power. All it is is a second world outfit with nuclear weapons and the amazing thing is with all the losses in men and materiel they still have the resources to continue this war. Of course the average Russian is barely scrapping by. Have any of you ever seen reports from people inside Russia where they travel the byways away from the few large cities? people live in shacks and people literally die on the side of the road and just lay there. No one cares. Most depend on home gardens and a few livestock to survive. This while Putin (probably the true richest man in the world) with his palaces and his Oligarch friends rape the country.

You two should talk

Originally Posted by gssixgun

You two should talk

You still have not shared your views on the obviously old news on drones. Here is a refreshing suggestion; why not quit bsing around and give your views/opinions on its importance to you?

Bob

Originally Posted by BobH

You still have not shared your views on the obviously old news on drones. Here is a refreshing suggestion; why not quit bsing around and give your views/opinions on its importance to you?

Bob

Well Bob,

Old: By ILLIA NOVIKOV and DMYTRO ZHYHINAS
Updated 7:40 PM PDT, May 12, 2025

Contrary to your BS narrative about it being "old news", and us Americans being in a "News Blackout" which honestly considering the 3 of you doing the throwbacks to old news is hilarious..

What struck me as odd was the recycling of news that was first released almost 3 years ago, since the media (AP) ALWAYS has a bias I was thinking about WHY they were recycling the same story.. Obviously in your zest to make political hay that thought never occurred to you.

IMHO they are trying to show Russia as weakening and that the Money Train should continue, did that occur to you ??

Originally Posted by gssixgun

Well Bob,

Old: By ILLIA NOVIKOV and DMYTRO ZHYHINAS
Updated 7:40 PM PDT, May 12, 2025

Contrary to your BS narrative about it being "old news", and us Americans being in a "News Blackout" which honestly considering the 3 of you doing the throwbacks to old news is hilarious..

What struck me as odd was the recycling of news that was first released almost 3 years ago, since the media (AP) ALWAYS has a bias I was thinking about WHY they were recycling the same story.. Obviously in your zest to make political hay that thought never occurred to you.

IMHO they are trying to show Russia as weakening and that the Money Train should continue, did that occur to you ??

No, from my pov it just shows that the use of drones should be a wakeup call to all militaries that in future conflicts drones will be a major concern. In the years that they have been in use in the Ukraine and other places they have grown ever more troublesome and counter measures to them ever more expensive.

Russia is well used to the tactic of a meat grinder war with high casualties and limited gains. This was true in WWII and continues today under Putin. This meat grinder mentality has not generally been the choice in the west. That really leaves only one choice if you don't want Russia to have what they want. If you want to cut the money train now, there in all probability be an even more expensive money train to pay in the future. It is basically a no-win situation.

Bob

I have posted about this before but it applies here as well.

For some reason a while back I looked up something about Johnny Winter and this came up.



Wait! WHAT? 5'3''? Really? He sure looked taller than that. So I looked it up on that one point.



Wow! I mean, I know he was skinny and that is sometimes deceptive. Checked some more...



Huh!...I even checked a couple of other search engines
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Seems like it is pretty unanimous...guess my judgement must be off.

But that just didn't seem right. I know everyone is saying it but that just seems...wrong. I mean, look at him.



...and look at the scale of him to and with the guitars. Then I noticed something. Look at the second picture under him where it shows Edgar's height. You mean to tell me Edgar was 7" taller? Let's check to see them together.





Johnny actually looks taller in the last couple.

Well let's recheck something. Notice again in the second picture Rick Derringer's height.



These "facts" just don't jive. But if you look at all the mainstream sources they ALL say the same thing. You can find people questioning it but the sources don't change.

What does this all mean? Nothing really, but what it indicates is that
1) sources can be wrong no matter how established or trusted

2) it is ill advised to believe something without verification when your GUT and THE EVIDENCE tells you it is wrong.

We have heard over and over and OVER again that there is no evidence that the 2020 elections were tampered with even though we KNOW that Hilary tampered with the 2016 elections and we KNOW the FBI conducted completely unfounded investigations with the intent to undermine Trump AND interfere with the mid terms elections which worked.

We also know that the mainstream media is a left wing PAC. We also know that Google is not only left wing biased but that they supress conservative views.

I also know that I watched the elections. I saw all the oddities, for example Arizona callingbthe election before the polls were closed. I also saw Republican election observers forced out of polling places violently.

So.....

Before you belittle, dismiss or ridicule anyone for having questions about the POSSIBILITY that there was not only interference but a cover up like, oh...say...WATERGATE then maybe consider that there may be, just may be some reason to question if things are on the up and up.