Thread: Drill here, drill now, pay less!

I think we can assume that we're not returning to a pre-industrial culture. It's a nice nostalgia, I think, but it ain't gonna happen. For starters, at current population levels, it wouldn't be sustainable without a mass die-off. Let's not go there.

What's left is making what we have sustainable. Oil as fuel is not sustainable. However, if we can replace oil and coal as fuel, we can probably make them last for centuries for other uses, like polymers etc. However, even plastics can be replaced by sustainable raw materials. My son's honors project for chemical engineering was on making polymers from soybean oil. It works. (His masters thesis was on bio-diesel from non-food products in the third world. That works, too.)

Oil can be replaced as fuel. There are just so many sources out there. Nuclear needs a lot of work, I agree, but let's not give up on it. If it can be made safe, clean, cheap, and efficient, I think there's a future for it.

Then there's solar, hydro, biomass, geothermal, tidal, wind, photovoltaic -- need I go on? I firmly believe that if Reagan hadn't turned the country over to the oil companies, we'd be getting most of our energy from these sources right now.

Originally Posted by Nord Jim

I firmly believe that if Reagan hadn't turned the country over to the oil companies, we'd be getting most of our energy from these sources right now.

What was the price and availability of gasoline when Ronald Reagan took office?

Originally Posted by Nord Jim

I think we can assume that we're not returning to a pre-industrial culture. It's a nice nostalgia, I think, but it ain't gonna happen. For starters, at current population levels, it wouldn't be sustainable without a mass die-off. Let's not go there.

Why not its been time to chlorinate the gene pool in this country for a while now?

Originally Posted by hoglahoo

What was the price and availability of gasoline when Ronald Reagan took office?

Is this one of those random "define your terms" questions or is there a point here?

j

Originally Posted by Wildtim

Why not its been time to chlorinate the gene pool in this country for a while now?

Only if I get to pick who. (Whom?)

j

Originally Posted by Nord Jim

Only if I get to pick who. (Whom?)

j

How about we start with the politicians and then move to the lawyers and CEOs?

CEO's first, lawyers and politicians are just by-products.

There are a couple of lawyers I'd like to keep. I'm okay with the rest.

Originally Posted by Nord Jim

Is this one of those random "define your terms" questions or is there a point here?

j

Did you just answer my question with another question?

Originally Posted by hoglahoo

Did you just answer my question with another question?

Yes. I wanted to know what the purpose of your question was. It's unusual to ask other people in a discussion to do research instead of making a point directly.

j