Thread: Barack and his Wife

Originally Posted by joesixpack

The whole Obama/Rev. Wright thing proves one thing to me. That is that Obama was sitting through services like most church-going folks not listening to what was being said!!. He was doing what the rest of the country does on sunday, showing up out of a sense of obligation and spending the hour or so daydreaming.

How do I know this? It's simple. What person in their right mind would want to be associated with a nut like the Rev. Wright if they wanted to run for President? The answere is "no one". In fact, Obama is most likely an atheist who simply chose a congregation based on it's popularity among his constituants and went there for appearances sake.

And no matter how you view it this whole Wright thing can say nothing good about the character of the man. Either he is a racist America hating bigot, or he is a hypocrite without solid beliefs who doesn't pay attention when things are going on around him.

Which of the above is a trait we want in a president?

Maybe a strange question, but why would a president have to be a religious (christian) person?
And why does he need the happy traditional family?

Does a divorce or different religion (or lack thereof) make you unfit for leading the country?

Originally Posted by Wildtim

And no matter how you view it this whole Wright thing can say nothing good about the character of the man. Either he is a racist America hating bigot, or he is a hypocrite without solid beliefs who doesn't pay attention when things are going on around him.

Which of the above is a trait we want in a president?

We have this one already.

This is for the most part how it works here. While unions may endorse a candidate, it doesn't guarantee that the entire union will vote in that direction. I think union support is more a means to sway other voters by appearing bona fide. This was the case, at least, in my old home state and seems to be the case in my new one which are both right to work states in which unions have virtually no hold.

Originally Posted by Bruno

Not so much.
Most companies, the workers are unionized with the union of their political affiliation. i.e. there are different unions, and if you choose to become a union member, you choose the one you want.

So people who are member of a certain union have already decided how they will vote (more of less) so while we have large unions, it's not like they can influence how people vote.

Originally Posted by Bruno

Maybe a strange question, but why would a president have to be a religious (christian) person?
And why does he need the happy traditional family?

Come on, do you want to turn this great country into France?

Originally Posted by gugi

Come on, do you want to turn this great country into France?

Thats my Gugi!!

Originally Posted by Bruno

Maybe a strange question, but why would a president have to be a religious (christian) person?
And why does he need the happy traditional family?

Does a divorce or different religion (or lack thereof) make you unfit for leading the country?

because in order to be liked BY the majority, you have to be LIKE to majority. apparently.

there was some fuss when JFK was up for election about his Catholocism, and that's a pretty mainstream religion. I'd love to see some sort of neopagan run for office, the uproar and mudslinging would be hilarious, I'd actually start watching TV again just to see the brouhaha.

but in all seriousness, pretty much all religions are insiders clubs, and insiders will usually vote for other insiders. since the vast overwhelming majority of the US self-identifies as some brand of Christianity, the candidate who does NOT belong to that club will not get voted for, very much. personally, this makes me pretty irate, but it's just a market reality.

Originally Posted by Bruno

Maybe a strange question, but why would a president have to be a religious (christian) person?
And why does he need the happy traditional family?

Does a divorce or different religion (or lack thereof) make you unfit for leading the country?

I Don't think he HAS to be either Religious or have a family. But if he claims to be religious or to be in a happy marriage it had better be true! Its the hypocrisy I really hate.

Originally Posted by Wildtim

I Don't think he HAS to be either Religious or have a family. But if he claims to be religious or to be in a happy marriage it had better be true! Its the hypocrisy I really hate.

I'm not disagreeing with you, but as an aside, I think people are looking for someone who can commit, if you are going to tell people that you are not a muslim but rather a christian and then have to distance yourself from the pastor and the teachings that youve listened to for 20 years people are naturally going to question what you say you are committed to.

Very true.