Thread: Palin vs Biden!

Palin put together some coherent sentences by simply regurgitating talking points. It is kinda sad that this is considered a victory in for a potential VP, God help us as country. That movie Idiocracy is starting to look like reality now.

I felt she was dancing around the questions (& did a good job of it), where as previously she was not even able to do that. Previously she would simply spew out inchorent sentences like "Putin is rearing his ugly head for job creation and energy independence that will lead us to victory in Iraq and bring freedom and democracy to the middle east by drilling offshore. Drill baby drill!!"
in that context this debate was a slight improvement for Palin

Biden was restraining himself but his arguments were well formed and he answered the questions without waivering. But he was not as so "gosh be darn, gee bee golly, shucks, say it ain't so joe" folksy fella.

My verdict if this were a beauty pagent Sarah Palin won
(all image no substance)

If this were a debate competition Joe Biden won
(no image all substance)

It would have been great to see chuck stationed at a podium between the other two candidates, and very interesting to see who would be the last candidate standing. And Mr. Norris your rebuttal to the hogwash spewed by Mr. Biden & Ms Palin..... Whack! Thunk! And that Madame moderator is what I call real change!

Originally Posted by hoglahoo

That's true wirebeard, I just wanted to try to help you clear up what Palin meant. I think it's important when the nation is at war for people to know if it's being won or not, and I'm glad Palin brought it up if it helps get people up to speed on what's going on

I don't buy this story. In my view the surge in troops has had much less effect, than the very real looking threats to pull out all american troops from Iraq.
The surge in troops has helped only very little, successful counterinsurgency based on military action requires many times the troops that are in Iraq and a conduct that's hard to get away with these days. The two main components to the success in my view were (1) Iraqi political leaders saw that the days of the Bush administration are numbered and the war is becoming so unpopular in US that they risk being alone. Most of them are corrupt and power hungry but they are not stupid - if left w/o american military support they'll loose everything. (2) Changes in the war tactics in the interest of decreasing the violence. For example people who had killed americans and Iraqis last week became allies this week and were put on payrol. If the Bush administration had chosen this approach with the Baath party right after the invasion the war may have been indeed won long time ago.

Surge my butt. When we leave Iraq and we stop paying off the different sectarian groups what's going to happen then?

Originally Posted by thebigspendur

Surge my butt.

no!

Originally Posted by thebigspendur

When we leave Iraq and we stop paying off the different sectarian groups what's going to happen then?

I don't know, I guess they'll go on with daily life? I give up, what's going to happen then?

Originally Posted by hoglahoo

no!

I don't know, I guess they'll go on with daily life? I give up, what's going to happen then?

They'll go back to doing what they have been doing for hundreds of years. Bickering with each other and killing each other if the money stops.