Thread: Politics and Religion

Yeah, there is something on it.
Usually problems start with too much personal information.
Its hard to bite your tongue.

and i dont want to sopund like im not for the freedom of speech, quite the exact opposite, im for total freedom of speech, which is the only way to speak honestly, especially in politics

no matter how ignorant or cruel it is.

i for one, dont want to see that here. not in this forum.

to have moderated or babysat political convo, is to have untruthful political convo, "express my beliefs but better watch my toes so as not to offend anyone"... thats ridiculous
*ive been banned before from forums for "lack of empathy" lol

point- theres so many funner things to talk about. go kill someone elses buzz

Originally Posted by The0ctopus

and i dont want to sopund like im not for the freedom of speech, quite the exact opposite, im for total freedom of speech, which is the only way to speak honestly, especially in politics

no matter how ignorant or cruel it is.

i for one, dont want to see that here. not in this forum.

to have moderated or babysat political convo, is to have untruthful political convo, "better watch my toes and not offend anyone, but express my beliefs at the same time"... thats ridiculous

I can understand that - I can. Maybe a sub forum or something which could be totally avoided?

I am very much pro-free-speech - even the very ugliest. Mostly because it's less dangerous than driving such elements underground. Expose it to the light. Like a lot of bacteria, it dies when the sunlight hits it.

As for the "but not here" part - that's kind of difficult. If you have an off topic area, the topics are bound to come up. Frankly, every forum to which I have ever "belonged" has had political conversations. In places like this we do have the benefit of having members from all over the world, and can gain a lot from their input (no matter the point of view).

In many ways it could be the perfect place for such conversations because we are all here for the original unifying purpose of straight razors and a love thereof, so we don't start out as adversaries and might be more willing to look at what Bob From That Great Thread has to say than we would from Just Another Loudmouthed____. That initial connection can serve as a good way to open conversations. I am on the verge of getting kind of mushy we-are-the-world now so I'll stop.

politics and religion do nothing but DIVIDE us.

I am on the verge of getting kind of mushy we-are-the-world now so I'll stop.

me too

And to address a point which was edited in after previous replies, but before seeing it - (or something) - Both? At least "both" sides should be aired. Absolutely, yes. And all sides should be required to back up their arguments with rational, fact-based...erm...facts. That sentence kind of got away from me there.

Originally Posted by The0ctopus

politics and religion do nothing but DIVIDE us.me too

I disagree!

Originally Posted by Oglethorpe

What would be the punishment for such crimes? And since you mentioned that "in Europe" these things are true, is it some EU international law? Or does each country enforce them separately? I'm intrigued (and not irate one bit).

Criminal law is not a competence of the EU, but each of its member states (cf. Law of the European Union - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia).

International law is something else entirely, cf. Criminal law - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

Originally Posted by Elliette

I disagree!

you are kidding right?
they are whats responsible for every major war and disagreement ever!
millions die every year to no point but to promote there religious and political viewpoints.

We have no restrictions on political or religious topics, only on behavior.
If people want to discuss them, fine. As long as everybody behaves in a respectful manner, that shouldn't be a problem.

If you feel that the only way to get your point across is to hurt / insult people, then that would be a wrong way of having a dicsussion imo, and that is where we would step in.

Originally Posted by nun2sharp

As long as everybody sees things my way, we will get along just fine!

Nicely done sir.