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    Quote Originally Posted by jockeys View Post
    the concentration camp line invoked godwin's first law, and my followup post invoked godwin's second law. QED.
    I would have to say it's close, but not quite there yet. After all, the US did use concentration camps on Japanese Americans for fear of traitors and spies. Hitler doesn't have the patent on it

    This thread has run the gamut...jokes, politics, religion, what the American way of life means, and now usenet. My reply to it, besides that I thought it was funny, is that of the Navy: the American Way is life, liberty, and the pursuit of those who threaten it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jockeys View Post
    godwinned. ibtl.
    I was talking about Khmer Rouge camps. Does that have its own law or do they get lumped together?

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    In the USA during WW2 they were called internment camps and that is what they were. Unjust but to equate them with nazi concentration camps is misguided.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyHAD View Post
    In the USA during WW2 they were called internment camps and that is what they were. Unjust but to equate them with nazi concentration camps is misguided.
    I'm not equating them to nazi camps at all. They were obviously different in operation, but the concept remains the same- gather this group of people and lock 'em up so they can't go anywhere. My point was that a thread can't be Godwinned just from the mention of a concentration/internment camp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyHAD View Post
    When I see Jewish, Christian, Jehovah's Witness, Hindu. Buddhist, Sufi suicide bombers I will tend to agree. Until then characterizing someone as an "Islamic terrorist" is AFAIC not an unjust assumption.
    I believe Timothy McVeigh was Catholic and the Unabomber Kaczynski was of Jewish descent.

    But we never seem to hear about what religion white terrorists are. Wonder why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by majurey View Post
    I believe Timothy McVeigh was Catholic and the Unabomber Kaczynski was of Jewish descent.

    But we never seem to hear about what religion white terrorists are. Wonder why?
    Perhaps because they didn't claim to do their evil deeds for Jesus or YHWH
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    Quote Originally Posted by majurey View Post
    I believe Timothy McVeigh was Catholic and the Unabomber Kaczynski was of Jewish descent.

    But we never seem to hear about what religion white terrorists are. Wonder why?
    While I am on your side generally in this line of argument, did either of these men commit their acts of terrorism for/on behalf of their religion?
    Many of the well known, hgihly visible terrorists of the Islamic (at least THEY claim to be Islamic) faith have claimed Islam as their basis and justification.
    This says nothing about Islam, it says something about these men, and these particular groups of people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by majurey View Post
    I believe Timothy McVeigh was Catholic and the Unabomber Kaczynski was of Jewish descent.

    But we never seem to hear about what religion white terrorists are. Wonder why?
    They weren't suicide bombers. The were not on a jihad believing that with martyrdom in killing 'infidels' comes paradise and 72 virgins.
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    Wait, what has suicide bombers got to do with anything?
    Suddenly, an Islamic Terrorist with a huge knife comes around the corner,
    Someone (this thread is so rambling I've lost track) pointed out that one unfunny part of the joke for him was the linking of Muslim to Terrorist. Which is what the OP had. It didn't mention suicide bombers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoglahoo View Post
    Perhaps because they didn't claim to do their evil deeds for Jesus or YHWH
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    While I am on your side generally in this line of argument, did either of these men commit their acts of terrorism for/on behalf of their religion?
    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyHAD View Post
    They weren't suicide bombers. The were not on a jihad believing that with martyrdom in killing 'infidels' comes paradise and 72 virgins.
    OK, let me just clarify. The joke is about a random stabbing. Any kind of murderous criminal could have been used as the protagonist, right? Or is it specifically Islamic Terrorists that are capable of this behaviour?

    Sheesh! Talk about not seeing the wood for trees. As GW said, it's Muslim this, Muslim that, etc. etc. It's got so that it's an automatic thing to write in a joke even.

    (For the record, the OP did make me chuckle, at all three stereotypes.)

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