Thread: This one is seriously painful.

it's a bit hypocritical to say just kill them! you can't say "we can't be bothered paying for prisoners, so lets just kill them" thats so inhumane, and is just dropping to their level. sad fact is that most people do want them killed, but it is definitely unacceptable.

ciao,
MisterDavid

Originally Posted by MisterDavid

it's a bit hypocritical to say just kill them! you can't say "we can't be bothered paying for prisoners, so lets just kill them" thats so inhumane, and is just dropping to their level. sad fact is that most people do want them killed, but it is definitely unacceptable.

ciao,
MisterDavid

Paying for them to breath the air and enjoy life that they deprived someone else of is a bitter pill. Even in prison a person apparently adapts and will have some enjoyment of life.

To me a predator should be dispatched with the same remorselessness that they show their victims. A child molester such as the one in the OP is a predator and potentially a murderer. In past times execution would have solved that problem. Society in general has become more charitable. Unfortunately the predators among us have not.

In a column some time ago Pat Buchanan wrote about the execution of the nazi spies who came ashore on US soil in WW2. He pointed out that such a penalty would not be demanded in today's world. He said that Americans in those days,"were made of sterner stuff." No wonder they are known as the "greatest generation."

Originally Posted by MisterDavid

it's a bit hypocritical to say just kill them! you can't say "we can't be bothered paying for prisoners, so lets just kill them" thats so inhumane, and is just dropping to their level. sad fact is that most people do want them killed, but it is definitely unacceptable.

ciao,
MisterDavid

"Unacceptable" is an opinion, and to call it definite is definitely wrong. In fact, it's "ideal" in my point of view.

These predators are the scum of the earth. If it were up to me, I'd dig the hole for these two myself.

EDIT: and I agree with Jimmy again (more specifically, who he quoted). As a whole, American society has gotten a little soft.

it is completely hypocritical to use the eye for an eye argument. killing prisoners has no benefit, other than to make some people feel better. therefore you're simply killing them for your own enjoyment.
the purpose of locking them up is to prevent them from doing it again, so by all means lock them up and throw away the key, but to do to them what they did to others is to become criminal and evil yourself.

ciao,
misterdavid

Originally Posted by MisterDavid

it is completely hypocritical to use the eye for an eye argument. killing prisoners has no benefit, other than to make some people feel better. therefore you're simply killing them for your own enjoyment.
the purpose of locking them up is to prevent them from doing it again, so by all means lock them up and throw away the key, but to do to them what they did to others is to become criminal and evil yourself.

ciao,
misterdavid

That really is laughable.

Some people feel the need to impress civility on others to make up for their own demons or to soothe personal feelings, with no regard for what others want or need.

I, on the other hand, see the need for personal responsibility for every individual and their actions. One cannot, under most circumstances, commit a vile crime and expect society to not impose dire consequences. Anything less then absolute punishment for a crime of such magnitude is inhumane. People aren't saints, or angels, or a higher form of life. We're all here for different reasons and with different beliefs, but one thing is universal, we are responsible for our selves and the actions we commit. When someone can't be responsible for their own actions, someone has to be, and unfortunately (or fortunately) society is there to make the choice. If you steal a car, you pay with your wallet. If you steal a life, the stakes have made a leap beyond what time or money can heal.

Originally Posted by JokiJo

That really is laughable.

Dont let it become a war of words jokijo, instead explain your point of view

Originally Posted by JMS

What you say is true but I was posting about a particular event, not commenting on the state of humanity. Men like this are the exception and not the rule.

Sorry if you felt that was off topic.
One of the biggest mysteries already mentioned was how could it go on for so long. Antioch said it was a good neighborhood for the most part. What was the dynamics of that neighborhood that allowed it to persist without question? I am not nosey and allow personal freedom to all within some basic rules, but if that was next to your house who could let it go on? What did they see? From arial views, it not like the neighbors were out of earshot.
M

Originally Posted by Kingfish

Sorry if you felt that was off topic.
One of the biggest mysteries already mentioned was how could it go on for so long. Antioch said it was a good neighborhood for the most part. What was the dynamics of that neighborhood that allowed it to persist without question? I am not nosey and allow personal freedom to all within some basic rules, but if that was next to your house who could let it go on? What did they see? From arial views, it not like the neighbors were out of earshot.
M

I thought it was perfectly on topic and something I should have clarafied when I first read Antiochs post.

Originally Posted by Oglethorpe

Does the fact that they are surfacing more rapidly make the death penalty any less applicable? one.

You make the mistake, sir, of making those two statements of mine mutually inclusive.

The death penalty, as I have said before, is an easy way out. Until people stop hanging them selves inside to get away from the misery of their lives, I will oppose the death penalty.

It is not about death being too harsh, quite the contrary. Unfortunately, people still seem to think death is a punishment. I'm not convinced those who have died are aware of the fact, seems to be to be one big get out of jail free card.

Originally Posted by JokiJo

we are responsible for our selves and the actions we commit.

Do you really believe that?