Thread: This one is seriously painful.

Originally Posted by natepaint

If our prison system is set up to conform a criminal, to our laws, then no, no one should be put on death row. They should all have a chance to prove themselves worthwhile, productive citizens.
If our prison system is set up to, deter crime, deny a criminal, liberties, rights, and life, then by all means let them hang.
Our prisons have become a, horrible, hybrid of these two and does not work.

I am personally against the death penalty for various reasons. But what he is saying here makes a lot of sense. For one thing I don't feel the death penalty it deters crime but elevates its in some instances. A rapist, knowing if he's caught will receive the electric chair, will simple kill the victim out of preservation. There are other reasons, but I feel if I'm going to state something example should be given.


Unfortunately neither the concept of rehabilitation or the concept of making jail so horrible no one would want to go there has been shown to work. The criminals just keep on coming.

But jail is a joke now. Watch any real cop show and they constantly pick up repeat offenders because going to jail entails TV, not dropping the soap, and hanging out.

I will tell you what would stop these street toughs from ever wanting to come back.

No TV, no weights, hard work, making them keep their cell in a military fashion, military haircuts mandatory, gigs for being out of uniform. The personal discipline would keep them in line and serve them well after parole. GPS tracking the rest of his or her life. A crime is committed somewhere and thier GPS was there then it's a good chance they did it.

For people like those in this discussion. A small cell, 4 walls, no sunshine or fresh air, no means of suicide and a lifetime to regret being worthless as a human.

it costs more to execute a prisoner than to incarcerate him or her the rest of their lives. Unless you take away the right of appeal and then you are messing with justice in a big way.

Just my two cents. You are welcome to tell me I'm full of it.

Originally Posted by icedog

I thought this thread was about some asshole in California that kept a girl prisoner in his backyard?

It was

The joys of t'internet. Apologies from me.

I wonder, did the Austrian case make it across the pond, it must have been early ish last year. That was absolutely incredible.

Originally Posted by joscobo

I am personally against the death penalty for various reasons. But what he is saying here makes a lot of sense. For one thing I don't feel the death penalty it deters crime but elevates its in some instances. A rapist, knowing if he's caught will receive the electric chair, will simple kill the victim out of preservation. There are other reasons, but I feel if I'm going to state something example should be given.


Unfortunately neither the concept of rehabilitation or the concept of making jail so horrible no one would want to go there has been shown to work. The criminals just keep on coming.

But jail is a joke now. Watch any real cop show and they constantly pick up repeat offenders because going to jail entails TV, not dropping the soap, and hanging out.

I will tell you what would stop these street toughs from ever wanting to come back.

No TV, no weights, hard work, making them keep their cell in a military fashion, military haircuts mandatory, gigs for being out of uniform. The personal discipline would keep them in line and serve them well after parole. GPS tracking the rest of his or her life. A crime is committed somewhere and thier GPS was there then it's a good chance they did it.

For people like those in this discussion. A small cell, 4 walls, no sunshine or fresh air, no means of suicide and a lifetime to regret being worthless as a human.

it costs more to execute a prisoner than to incarcerate him or her the rest of their lives. Unless you take away the right of appeal and then you are messing with justice in a big way.

Just my two cents. You are welcome to tell me I'm full of it.

i reckon you're on to something there, it's just trying to make it workable. i think most prison guards (other than corrupt ones) are just trying to do the best they can, with massive overcrowding of the most awful human beings on the planet, it's going to be difficult.
and i completely agree that they should be out building the roads 12 hours a day. how's that for exercise and fresh air?

ciao,
misterdavid.

Originally Posted by MisterDavid

i reckon you're on to something there, it's just trying to make it workable. i think most prison guards (other than corrupt ones) are just trying to do the best they can, with massive overcrowding of the most awful human beings on the planet, it's going to be difficult.
and i completely agree that they should be out building the roads 12 hours a day. how's that for exercise and fresh air?

We reserve those punishments for drunk underage kids and Chris Brown.