Thread: North Carolina Intollerant and Unconstitutional Action

Originally Posted by treydampier

Everything I could say would be nonsense to you. Logic is hard to understand often. Beside you won't answer the questions because like others, you probably know what I am arriving at. But, I would love for you to try since you are clearly smarter than me. You have a modicum of education on constitutional law so answer the questions. I would like to educated by you answering the questions, but I know, you can't or won't because of something about energy?. Lets face it, what is the Supreme Court going to do if North Carolina blows them off? Nothing. Should the people of NC care about "Judicial Scrutiny" by the Supreme Court? NO, because the sacred court essentially can't do anything to them. Hence my point that NC should do what they want and laugh at the court. You also didn't answer any of the questions because like me you know its going to go away. I happen to know about Marbury V. Madison and also understand the articles of the constitution. You don't need a law degree to understand it since lawyers didn't write it. Lawyers and Judges have done more harm in society than any other particular group. They feel that they are the only ones with the ability to interpret law and thereby corrupt the law. Laws are written to be broken, hence why lawyers write laws with no coherence or rational thought behind them. Besides, a very mediocre student in college can get into law school,hence I personally turned down a pretty good one, but hey I just wanted to make an honest living. Only a good lawyer and get a confessed murderer off because the defendant was not Mirandized properly. That is real justice huh? Only a lawyer could come up with that kind of justice. I have always thought that judges in criminal courts should only have a formal education and common sense, not a law degree that biases them toward lawyers. Lawyers are the reason that there was no Tort reform in the healthcare bills, heaven forbid they go against corrupt ambulance chasing lawyers. Remember most Congressmen are lawyers and have to pay homage to lawyers first, themselves second, and then everyone else they can extort last.

Leave North Carolina alone please. It's a beautiful state and I want it to stay the way it is, Constitution and all unless the people there decide to change it. I need somewhere to go when I get back to the US from Mexico. Pleeeeeease?

Besides, you do what you want in New Jersey. Let the people of North Carolina do as they desire. Perhaps they don't want the highest taxes and unemployment in the union. Perhaps they want to choose their own leaders based on their requirements.
Good Luck.

Its going to be ok, I haven't even seen the media cover this so it can't be that bad. Lets again all eat drink and be merry! It's seriously not personal with me, I could care less, but I would love someone to answer my questions from earlier.

What a bunch of nonsense...
But to answer the question you seem to want an answer to (I think)--if this issue made it's way all the way to the US Supreme Court, and if the court was to find the law unconstitutional, and if the court was to issue an order invalidating the law and if NC was to ignore that order and, say, bars the elected official from taking office, then...just like when George Wallace defied an order to allow african american students to attend public schools, the police power of the federal government could be mobilized to enforce the supreme court order. Now, would things actually come to this? Not very likely, No...not at all even remotely likely. There would be no way the state of NC would ignore a supreme court ruling in order to uphold a provision in its state constitution that is clearly unconstitutional (have I mentioned that it's unconstitutional?).
As far as your ad hominem attack on the legal profession--keep it up and I'll sue your a** off. Really. I'm not kidding. Seriously.

Originally Posted by 59caddy

most atheists and agnostic people have little to say to the question i pose to them all. i always ask them if i am right about there being a god and they are wrong what then?(another interesting point)

Um, I get graded on the Curve?

Be nice guys

Originally Posted by JimmyHAD

Be nice guys

You got it. Sorry for any angst Fellas'.

Originally Posted by billyjeff2

What a bunch of nonsense...
But to answer the question you seem to want an answer to (I think)--if this issue made it's way all the way to the US Supreme Court, and if the court was to find the law unconstitutional, and if the court was to issue an order invalidating the law and if NC was to ignore that order and, say, bars the elected official from taking office, then...just like when George Wallace defied an order to allow african american students to attend public schools, the police power of the federal government could be mobilized to enforce the supreme court order. Now, would things actually come to this? Not very likely, No...not at all even remotely likely. There would be no way the state of NC would ignore a supreme court ruling in order to uphold a provision in its state constitution that is clearly unconstitutional (have I mentioned that it's unconstitutional?).
As far as your ad hominem attack on the legal profession--keep it up and I'll sue your a** off. Really. I'm not kidding. Seriously.

Easy, man easy.
I am going to be a doctor (hopefully). You will probably sue my pants off a number of times and you will probably win or it will settle in your favor. At least then I 'll have some money and a house and more things for you to take. Don't sue me yet because all I have is school debt and my creditors would rather get paid before I get sued. But, don't worry after a few law suits, i'll loose my license(assuming I get one some day), and then you can tell everyone I picked the wrong man to mess with in the forums of SRP.
I will not say anything more. I am sorry to offend any in the legal profession or otherwise.
Thanks for answering the questions though, oddly they still pray in Mississippi schools. Besides you are right, nothing will ever come of this other than further expansion of the federal government over states rights. IT is unconstitutional, but so is the limitless power the federal government has these days. Besides the constitution has been open to interpretation and hence become a more and more meaningless document hence the gun laws in NY and Washington DC, I mean those are unconstitutional, but the courts allow them, so why should they interfere with NC?

All will be settled when the court rules the NC rules of elections unconstitutional and they will do it to a 9-0 vote no doubt if it comes to that. Everything you said will happen because NC will not ignore the Supreme Court. You are right I am wrong. I just wanted answers to my questions and you did that.
Thanks All! No more from me on this subject. My questions were answered and I was proven wrong and someone else right.
SOrry to any offended. it was not my intention, just a little light hearted fun.

Best Wishes!

Regardless of the legal issues which are interesting and debatable, it is self evident by the photograph that he is a poor dresser and therefore of questionable qualifications.

Originally Posted by billyjeff2

As far as your ad hominem attack on the legal profession--keep it up and I'll sue your a** off. Really. I'm not kidding. Seriously.

Why the threats?

"I happen to know about Marbury V. Madison and also understand the articles of the constitution. You don't need a law degree to understand it since lawyers didn't write it."

Well, let's see about that.
Thomas Jefferson. Admitted to the bar of the great state of Virginia in 1767. I think he may have had some involvement in the writing of the constitution.
John Adams--he was a teacher and...oops! a lawyer
Gouverneur Morris--exotic dancer (only kidding- he was actually a lawyer)
Alexander Hamilton: yup, you guessed it.
Edmund Randolf....shyster. I mean lawyer.
But of course the "father of the constitution", James Madison, wasn't a lawyer,. he just studied law but never sought admission to the bar,

Yep. You're exactly right. Lawyers didn't write the constitution.
Doctors did..

Originally Posted by nun2sharp

Why the threats?

It was meant solely in jest. Sometimes this doesn't come thru on posts. No one's getting sued. Seriously.

Originally Posted by treydampier

Easy, man easy.
I am going to be a doctor (hopefully). You will probably sue my pants off a number of times and you will probably win or it will settle in your favor. At least then I 'll have some money and a house and more things for you to take. Don't sue me yet because all I have is school debt and my creditors would rather get paid before I get sued. But, don't worry after a few law suits, i'll loose my license(assuming I get one some day), and then you can tell everyone I picked the wrong man to mess with in the forums of SRP.
I will not say anything more. I am sorry to offend any in the legal profession or otherwise.
Thanks for answering the questions though, oddly they still pray in Mississippi schools. Besides you are right, nothing will ever come of this other than further expansion of the federal government over states rights. IT is unconstitutional, but so is the limitless power the federal government has these days. Besides the constitution has been open to interpretation and hence become a more and more meaningless document hence the gun laws in NY and Washington DC, I mean those are unconstitutional, but the courts allow them, so why should they interfere with NC?

All will be settled when the court rules the NC rules of elections unconstitutional and they will do it to a 9-0 vote no doubt if it comes to that. Everything you said will happen because NC will not ignore the Supreme Court. You are right I am wrong. I just wanted answers to my questions and you did that.
Thanks All! No more from me on this subject. My questions were answered and I was proven wrong and someone else right.
SOrry to any offended. it was not my intention, just a little light hearted fun.

Best Wishes!

Well, best of luck on your medical career. I have nothing but the utmost respect for the medical profession, Not sure if you're being serious about the "I was proven wrong" stuff, but please don't mistake spirited debate for personal attacks. Except of course if I disagree with you, in which case it's personal...