Thread: Oh my goodness, YES!

Originally Posted by commiecat

You need to separate lies and agenda, though. Yes I'm sure that all networks have an agenda but, IMHO, Fox has the most obvious one and while some mistakes are natural, theirs are so frequent that I have no issues with calling them liars.

I'm okay with news having an opinion. I'm not okay when the news lies about the facts just to support their opinion.

I really do appreciate your perspective on this. But I also know that this IS a matter of perspective and what an individual, me, you, anybody, wants to hear and how they want to hear it.

It sounds like I get all of my news from FOX. I don't. Mostly internet. I watch very little TV. But I know that FOX represents a more conservative philosophy, and the rest represent a more liberal philosophy. And it is suspicious that FOX lies more than the rest. I really hope it does not come down to idealogy.

Originally Posted by xman

Nope. If they're lying, and we have determined that they certainly do, they should have their license revoked. Corporations should not have the freedom to grossly mislead the public indiscriminate of their political agenda.

Then you would have to revoke all licenses, not a bad idea as then we could start over from scratch.

most on the left hate FOX news because it is a total opposite of the garbage of the other networks...why do you think Dan Rather lost his job?(hint: it wasn't because of his telling the truth)

Originally Posted by 59caddy

most on the left hate FOX news because it is a total opposite of the garbage of the other networks...why do you think Dan Rather lost his job?(hint: it wasn't because of his telling the truth)

Exactly. HE LOST HIS JOB because he lied.

Originally Posted by commiecat

You need to separate lies and agenda, though. Yes I'm sure that all networks have an agenda but, IMHO, Fox has the most obvious one and while some mistakes are natural, theirs are so frequent that I have no issues with calling them liars.

Oh really?

From PEW:
A study by the respected Pew Research Center showed that 40 percent of Fox News stories on Obama in the last six weeks of the campaign were negative. Similarly, 40 percent of Fox News' stories on Obama's Republican opponent, Sen. John McCain, were negative. On CNN, by contrast, there was a 22-point disparity in the percentage of negative stories on Obama (39 percent) and McCain (61 percent). The disparity was even greater at MSNBC, according to Pew, where just 14 percent of Obama stories were negative, compared to a whopping 73 percent of McCain stories—a spread of 59 points.

Originally Posted by commiecat

I'm okay with news having an opinion. I'm not okay when the news lies about the facts just to support their opinion.

Evidently, only if it's FOX that you think is doing the lying.

Originally Posted by JimR

*sigh*

So, the fact that there is no absolutely objective source of news justifies shameless yellow journalism?

How about this:

BBC article on Haitian relief efforts "Cuba, which also felt the quake, has sent 30 doctors. Cuban field hospitals in Port-au-Prince were already treating hundreds of injured, according to Cuban Foreign Minister Bruno Rodriguez."

FOX news article on Haitian Relief efforts:
"But one geographically close country is conspicuously absent from the roster of helping hands.
Cuba, which had evacuated some of its residents as a precaution in case the earthquake triggered a tsunami, has so far not offered any assistance publicly to its devastated island neighbor. Though the two countries have had warm ties since establishing relations 12 years ago after a 36-year break, the Cuban government Web site, along with Cuban news agencies, did not detail any offers of Cuban aid.
A representative from the Cuban diplomatic offices in the U.S. could not be reached for comment. "

BBC checks facts, FOX news spins it's inability to get facts as Cuba's cold, heartless communist lack of action.

Please explain how BBC checked their facts. As far as I can tell from the quote you provided is they talked to one source inside the cuban government and took his word for it. They dont list any second sources. I am in no way saying the cuban lied, but you said the BBC doublechecks and FOX doesnt. Then the next quote you provide shows FOX tried to contact a foreign minister(1), checked the cuban government page(2), and checked the cuban news agencies(3). I guess you were right FOX didnt doublecheck they tried to triple check, then reported the info they had at the time of the story. I could not find any mention of communism or cubans being heartless in FOX's story, was that hidden between the lines?

Originally Posted by Alembic

.... Why does my watering hole have to be dried up also?

To make it fair. Duuhh!

'Oh my goodness, YES!' indeed. Man. This does sound fantastic. I don't have cable or anything, so I rarely see FOX and rarely watch the idiot box anyway. But from what I hear in the news, the FOX viewership outnumbers all the other networks COMBINED, and strangely they were excluded from some special news broadcasts like one Sunday last year when all the other networks gave Obama special coverage all day. And now from what I hear they are projecting an even further increase in viewership since they have added sweet little Sarah. Fantastic. She's a hot momma. Those idiots at the other networks are already bucking for our tax dollars to prop them up because they are such incompetent losers and can't connect with the American people who know liars and slanted journalism when they see it.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA !!!!!!!

Originally Posted by ControlFreak1

can't connect with the American people who know liars

I seem to remember the American people electing Al Gore as a president. And then electing GW Bush as a president, and then BH Obama...
And some insisting representative democracy a.k.a. republic is absolutely necessary to rein in the American people....

Do you wish to amend your statement above?

Originally Posted by gugi

I seem to remember the American people electing Al Gore as a president.
Do you wish to amend your statement above?

AL "FOREST GUMP" GORE was never elected to president...THANK GOD FOR THAT ONE .....