Thread: BIN LADEN Killed by US forces.

Originally Posted by Deerhunter1995

whatever it was im happy we did it, and as far as the death penatly i vote for the cheapest way out a rope and a tree, i say let them suffer for a few mins while they die they made the choice to kill or rape and i say let them have a few mins of pain while (justice) is served.

Considering that there will be a percentage of people wrongfully convicted -if you don't believe me, do some googling- I think it would be best to have a painless execution method, if you insist on having a death penalty. The alternative is picking a painful method of execution, knowing that not only do you execute an innocent person from time to time, but you make it gruesome as well.

Given that there are plenty of dirt cheap and painless ways of making someone die (several of the legal euthanasia methods for example, where euthanasia is legal), cost should not be an issue.

Originally Posted by Deerhunter1995

whatever it was im happy we did it, and as far as the death penatly i vote for the cheapest way out a rope and a tree, i say let them suffer for a few mins while they die they made the choice to kill or rape and i say let them have a few mins of pain while (justice) is served.

If done correctly hanging causes an instant and painless death. The death is not from strangulation. (Its a common misconception about hangings.)

I know I promised not to get involved in this thread again, but thought I'd better stand up for deerhunter 1995 on this point. I believe he is referring not to hanging so much, as a good lynching. In which case strangulation is the method of death.

While I'm here a joke to lighten the mood:

Ten long years, Billions of dollars spent,
Thousands more dead, state of the art spy technology,
The US finally found Bin Laden...In his freakin' house!


Mick

In lynchings, the hanging is usually of the pulling up kind, so the neck won't break.
Drop hanging will break the neck if done properly.
That said, in England, short drop used to be the norm for quite a while, meaning the victim did drop, but only a short bit so that he or she slowly died. Short drop was said to give more 'morris' which is referring to morris dancing. If you had money, you could pay the executioner beforehand to grab hold of your legs after dropping, so that you died quicker.

Short drop was popular for a while, during the period when the death penalty was used a lot. There were mass hangings in major cities every weekend, in an attempt to be tough on crime, and to deter would-be criminals. It didn't help. In fact it worked out in reverse. Criminals knew that whatever they did was a hanging offense. Thus it made sense to be ruthless and to kill all witnesses and victims, so they couldn't talk.

There also used to be hangin, dragging and quartering. First you were hanged by the neck (short drop) until you nearly died. Then you were cut loose and disemboweled on the stage, after which your arms and legs were cut off. You died somewhere between step 2 and 3. What sometimes happened was that people jumped before they were dropped, so their necks broke and they wouldn't feel the other bits. That did not always play out well though. One guy (who was executed together with guy fawkes) did this and the rope broke. The hanging bit usually puts the victim in a state of sedation (oxygen deprivation), which means he is partially numb for the pain of the real nastiness. The guy who jumped and broke his rope was disemboweled fully concious.

As nice as it is knowing he's dead, things with muslim terrorists won't change any time soon. Unless we say eff it and just nuke the middle east out of existence... that being said, if he was to have faced justice, drawing and quartering him while those personally affected by him watched is about the closest thing to justice he could have faced. Maybe use the Vietnamese trick of putting a glass tube up his urethra, then breaking it may help the catharctic value a bit, too.

Originally Posted by Bruno

In lynchings, the hanging is usually of the pulling up kind, so the neck won't break.
Drop hanging will break the neck if done properly.
That said, in England, short drop used to be the norm for quite a while, meaning the victim did drop, but only a short bit so that he or she slowly died. Short drop was said to give more 'morris' which is referring to morris dancing. If you had money, you could pay the executioner beforehand to grab hold of your legs after dropping, so that you died quicker.

Short drop was popular for a while, during the period when the death penalty was used a lot. There were mass hangings in major cities every weekend, in an attempt to be tough on crime, and to deter would-be criminals. It didn't help. In fact it worked out in reverse. Criminals knew that whatever they did was a hanging offense. Thus it made sense to be ruthless and to kill all witnesses and victims, so they couldn't talk.

There also used to be hangin, dragging and quartering. First you were hanged by the neck (short drop) until you nearly died. Then you were cut loose and disemboweled on the stage, after which your arms and legs were cut off. You died somewhere between step 2 and 3. What sometimes happened was that people jumped before they were dropped, so their necks broke and they wouldn't feel the other bits. That did not always play out well though. One guy (who was executed together with guy fawkes) did this and the rope broke. The hanging bit usually puts the victim in a state of sedation (oxygen deprivation), which means he is partially numb for the pain of the real nastiness. The guy who jumped and broke his rope was disemboweled fully concious.

My understanding of the process of being "Drawn and Quartered" deviates just a bit from your description:

The person (male) was hung briefly as you've described, then while stretched out on a board, their genitals were cut off as the person witnessed said genitalia being burned. Then they were disemboweled and the person was shown their entrails being burned after which point they most likely died as a result. Post mortem, then, they were beheaded and their body was cut into sections.

Humans: truly the most savage of all life forms on the planet. With the eternal and inherent weakness humans have toward succumbing to the influence of evil, I firmly believe there is no limit to the type and scope of horror and terror humans are capable of inflicting on other humans. Drawing and quartering: par for the course.

Chris L

its good to be posting on SRP again after a two month absence. My two cents: Good going Navy SEAL's - Thank you! I'm satisfied that Obama did not show the photos because I feel it makes this statement, " yes we found him and then we blew him to hell, all in a day's work actually. The US will decide what's going to be news, not anyone else. Don't test us."

Originally Posted by ChrisL

...the process of being "Drawn and Quartered"...The person (male) was hung briefly...stretched out on a board...genitals were cut off...genitalia...burned...they were disemboweled...entrails being burned...died as a result...beheaded...body was cut into sections...Drawing and quartering: par for the course.

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