Thread: Where Do We Draw The Line?

Not one person so far has listed a positive Obama achievement.

Originally Posted by Crotalus

Not one person so far has listed a positive Obama achievement.

Coincedence...I THINK NOT! You probably won't hear him touting his many accomplishments during the campaign either.

Originally Posted by Crotalus

Not one person so far has listed a positive Obama achievement.

Honestly man, I think this has gone so far off the reservation that everyone has given up on this thread.
The funny thing is, I don't remember anyone being particularly over the moon about Obama on this thread...I think some of us like him better than Bush...some of us like him better than the prospect of Romney...but he's still a politician and some of us don't really like any of those, but we didn't think he was the anti-christ either.

If I was still invested in this conversation, I would have sent you to this site to get your feathers in a ruffle...but honestly that site is just partisan like the stuff you have been throwing down...just for the other side. That being said, you're pretty far out there...full on conspiracy theory stuff. I'm so glad I don't believe any of that...living would be terrifying if I thought all that stuff was true.

And just to make a point of saying it...I have no problem with you personally as (I hope) is the case vice-versa...we just don't see eye to eye on politics, to put it mildly

Originally Posted by ryanjewell

Honestly man, I think this has gone so far off the reservation that everyone has given up on this thread.
The funny thing is, I don't remember anyone being particularly over the moon about Obama on this thread...I think some of us like him better than Bush...some of us like him better than the prospect of Romney...but he's still a politician and some of us don't really like any of those, but we didn't think he was the anti-christ either.

If I was still invested in this conversation, I would have sent you to this site to get your feathers in a ruffle...but honestly that site is just partisan like the stuff you have been throwing down...just for the other side. That being said, you're pretty far out there...full on conspiracy theory stuff. I'm so glad I don't believe any of that...living would be terrifying if I thought all that stuff was true.

And just to make a point of saying it...I have no problem with you personally as (I hope) is the case vice-versa...we just don't see eye to eye on politics, to put it mildly

I looked at the site and I disagree with 4 out of 5 of those. A few were good, but hardly classified as major improvements. I would call most of them were negated by the phony stimulus plans.

I have no personal problem with you. I can argue politics all day without getting emotionally involved unlike some of my opponents. Most political discussions get out of hand because the other person really hasn't studied the issues so just gets mad when he can't counter the arguments.

Originally Posted by Crotalus

I have no personal problem with you. I can argue politics all day without getting emotionally involved unlike some of my opponents. Most political discussions get out of hand because the other person really hasn't studied the issues so just gets mad when he can't counter the arguments.

I'll admit, there are times where I get upset...but that's only when an issue gets personal for me...i.e. friends not getting care due to the current state of our heath insurance system. and i'm not sure if it's that people can't counter the arguments...it's just that on both sides, the "truth" shifts significantly based on whatever side someone is rooting for, so even that has become subjective...and it's just plain hard for an argument to not just devolve into anger when both sides have "facts" to back up why they believe what they believe and neither side is really interested in seeing the others point of view. i make a strong effort to see both sides...sometimes i'm better at it, sometimes i'm not.

Originally Posted by Crotalus

Most political discussions get out of hand because the other person really hasn't studied the issues so just gets mad when he can't counter the arguments.

I hate when I miss Rush Limbaugh and Glen Beck.
Then I don't know what I'm supposed to say in these arguments.

Originally Posted by HNSB

I hate when I miss Rush Limbaugh and Glen Beck.
Then I don't know what I'm supposed to say in these arguments.

Are those the guys that keep redrawing the lines for us based on their current viewer ratings?

Originally Posted by hoglahoo

Are those the guys that keep redrawing the lines for us based on their current viewer ratings?

Sometimes I think we all just live in one big Focus Group and God is the Head of Marketing.

James.

Originally Posted by Jimbo

God is the Head of Marketing.

Who's that?

Originally Posted by Crotalus

Not one person so far has listed a positive Obama achievement.

it would probably make it in the top 10 of the world's shortest lists