Thread: Whats your opinion on automatic weapons?

Originally Posted by eleblu05

"British Teen Arrested Over Tweet To Olympic Diver" so tell me this you have no right to bear arms and no freedom of speech and your happy in this situation?

So the Divers father died when he was a kid as a result of a brain tumor. You think it's acceptable for somebody to be telling him that he let his father down? An olympic athlete who will be devistated because he failed to get a medal, get's that "tweeted" at him ... The diver is 18, I think the guy being arrested is firm but fair, it is showing kids that this sort of behavior isn't acceptable.

Originally Posted by straightrazorheaven

Haha once again ... nice pic.

I respect that you have lived a perfectly good life without a nanny state. I on the other hand, have lived my whole life under what you would call a nanny state, I suppose that means my man card disintegrated in the wash.
I suppose you could call it a form of propaganda, but I have always respected that the military and/or authorities would protect me if anything went wrong.
I have fear of firearms because in my world, they are only ever shown to have a negative impact on the world. I don't think I have ever read of a positive use for a gun, aside from hunting (this I can dig). I have had some bad things happen to me and always come out on top, granted the guys attacking never had a gun, and I did it using my limbs only. One time I had a knife in my pocket and I didn't even think to use it, I just used my hand to hand combat skills.

I actually discussed with my parents whether I should get a gun when I get my residency "just in case" to get their view, and she pointed out the events in my life where I have been attacked and been ok. I think this shows I do see a use for them whether or not I agree with it.

I read a bit about the police in the US messing up, but I can honestly say that is a rare occurance here. When they do screw up it's usually big, but rare.

I suppose you could call it a form of propaganda, but I have always respected that the military and/or authorities would protect me if anything went wrong.

The "authorities" as you refer to are for the most part "after the fact". It may surprise you to find out that I do NOT carry a pistol any more, except on rare occasions. I rely on my wits and experience to stay out of trouble. If it gets too crazy, I can drive a deadly weapon.

The military's job is to protect the shores and stay the HELL out of policing activities. Our current regime thinks otherwise. Our founding fathers were smart enough to recognize the danger of standing armies. Until a few short months ago we had a law known as "posse commitatus" which precluded the use of the our military against our citizens. THe passage of the NDAA pretty gutted that law. It will be interesting to see how that plays out in the future.

I actually discussed with my parents whether I should get a gun when I get my residency "just in case" to get their view, and she pointed out the events in my life where I have been attacked and been ok. I think this shows I do see a use for them whether or not I agree with it.

From what I've read of your views, if you do decide to get a firearm, I would recommend one of diminutive size and with no sharp corners. My thinking on this is that somebody will shove it where the sun doesn't shine before you would deploy it. I do hope that you NEVER have to be in a situation that would require the use of a firearm. I hope I NEVER have to use one again for self defense.

I will however defend OUR right to protect ourselves. That right was framed in our constitution by intelligent men who had lived under the yoke of British tyranny. It was their foresight and fervent hope that NO MAN would ever be subjected to what they had been subjected to and that the people of this country would live and prosper as citizens rather than subjects.

Now pack your bags and get your butt over here and find out how great this country still is WITHOUT having a camera on every damn corner. ( yet anyway )

Originally Posted by Wullie

The "authorities" as you refer to are for the most part "after the fact". It may surprise you to find out that I do NOT carry a pistol any more, except on rare occasions. I rely on my wits and experience to stay out of trouble. If it gets too crazy, I can drive a deadly weapon.

The military's job is to protect the shores and stay the HELL out of policing activities. Our current regime thinks otherwise. Our founding fathers were smart enough to recognize the danger of standing armies. Until a few short months ago we had a law known as "posse commitatus" which precluded the use of the our military against our citizens. THe passage of the NDAA pretty gutted that law. It will be interesting to see how that plays out in the future.



From what I've read of your views, if you do decide to get a firearm, I would recommend one of diminutive size and with no sharp corners. My thinking on this is that somebody will shove it where the sun doesn't shine before you would deploy it. I do hope that you NEVER have to be in a situation that would require the use of a firearm. I hope I NEVER have to use one again for self defense.

I will however defend OUR right to protect ourselves. That right was framed in our constitution by intelligent men who had lived under the yoke of British tyranny. It was their foresight and fervent hope that NO MAN would ever be subjected to what they had been subjected to and that the people of this country would live and prosper as citizens rather than subjects.

Now pack your bags and get your butt over here and find out how great this country still is WITHOUT having a camera on every damn corner. ( yet anyway )

Thanks Wullie, I look forward to actually living in the USA. Regardless of anything said in the discussion, I like the country, I may be wary, but I haven't yet had a single issue. I wonder why they decided to change that law? Seems odd.



What do ya think :P

I totally agree, If I ever did purchare a firearm it'd prob be a flare gun lol can't catch what you can't see!

Seriously you should visit the UK and play a game called "count the cameras". How you get the right number is, you count what you see, double it, add 10% and you have a few less than the number of cameras watching you lol

i guess straightrazorheaven you just cant relate to what we are saying because you weren't born with the rights we enjoy today. your use to being oppressed not having the right to express your thoughts no matter if their right or wrong

No one has considered the effort it would take to pry cold, dead fingers off of every gun in America. I contend that no one will ever do it.
This conversation is indeed interesting, but is really hypothetical, IMHO. Oh, and pic stolen, Wullie!

Originally Posted by eleblu05

i guess straightrazorheaven you just cant relate to what we are saying because you weren't born with the rights we enjoy today. your use to being oppressed not having the right to express your thoughts no matter if their right or wrong

I strongly disagree. We have a system that allows non violent communication. Our views are heard, we WANT the cameras, we WANT to be watched. We support our monarchy, we have the Human Rights Act. We have serious levels of control over our government, which works for us. In the USA private companies own your (your being anybody really) ass. Just take a look at the restrictiveness of cellular phones, you know how much a phone costs us here in the UK ... we pay around £20-30 per month ... and we get the smart phone for free that happaned because we said "screw you guys, we won't pay" that and the government helped too. We choose our healthcare provider, because we can. Your government doesn't restrict you but your private companies do that for them. Honestly you have us all wrong. I sound like a bloody salesman for the UK and/or UK cellular companies lmao

sure your views are heard and if their out of line you go to jail thats the system that you have. listening to the different peoples opinions that are from different countrys gives me great pride to be an american we live our life on our feet and not on our knees so continue to bow down to your queen may she protect you and your flock of sheep-people

Originally Posted by eleblu05

sure your views are heard and if their out of line you go to jail thats the system that you have. listening to the different peoples opinions that are from different countrys gives me great pride to be an american we live our life on our feet and not on our knees so continue to bow down to your queen may she protect you and your flock of sheep-poeple

lol flock of sheep people, wow. We can't go to jail for our views, we have freedom of speech. You will go to jail if your views are purely to offend someone. That is deserved.

well thats not freedom of speech then

Originally Posted by eleblu05

well thats not freedom of speech then

You are breaking another law in order to have your free speech. Harassment is illegal, is it not illegal over there?