Thread: Whats your opinion on automatic weapons?

There's no faith here just a strong belief in the fact that I don't have the right to kill. As mentioned earlier how would you feel if your shot went straight into your wife?

Yes, Bob we have "Castle Laws" and "Make My Day Laws" that protect you in many states, to allow you to protect yourself and your loved ones, and they have been slowly adapted to beat many Lawsuits also..

The controversial "Stand Your Ground Law" is one such adaption

Originally Posted by straightrazorheaven

If I offended anyone I want to apologize that wasn't the aim of that post. I suppose you can interpret "protect" in your own way, and have. You know, if you took the gun from under the table, afterwards your family may view you differently.

Yeah they'd view me as their hero. The one person they can truely rely on to save their life.

Originally Posted by gssixgun

Yes, Bob we have "Castle Laws" and "Make My Day Laws" that protect you in many states, to allow you to protect yourself and your loved ones, and they have been slowly adapted to beat many Lawsuits also..

The controversial "Stand Your Ground Law" is one such adaption

I'm interested in the castle law, you fear for your life so can use deadly force. That's a little scatty for my liking. We have that too but just in general not just in your home. It's hard to tell if somebody means to kill you or not.

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She could milk me? eww. sorry. i have a tasteless humor.

Originally Posted by straightrazorheaven

There's no faith here just a strong belief in the fact that I don't have the right to kill. As mentioned earlier how would you feel if your shot went straight into your wife?

As a gun owner. I understand safety a rules to follow when using a firearm. One of them is know what you are pointing at, and what is potentially behind that said target.

Originally Posted by straightrazorheaven
There's no faith here just a strong belief in the fact that I don't have the right to kill. As mentioned earlier how would you feel if your shot went straight into your wife?

As a gun owner. I understand safety a rules to follow when using a firearm. One of them is know what you are pointing at, and what is potentially behind that said target.

I completely respect that ... BUT ... this is a high pressure scenario, with a couple of seconds to choose, adrenaline pumping making you drunk, you are on pain meds for your leg ...

Originally Posted by straightrazorheaven

I'm interested in the castle law, you fear for your life so can use deadly force. That's a little scatty for my liking. We have that too but just in general not just in your home. It's hard to tell if somebody means to kill you or not.

These laws presume that anyone entering your domain is NOT there for a "Good" reason the old laws said you had to be in fear of your life or your loved ones..
Some even said the intruder had to be armed..

Now the law falls in favor of the Homeowner... if you break in I can use deadly force, I don't have to but I can

The even more controversial "Stand Your Ground Law" says you do not have to retreat, if you are threatened or attacked you can stand your ground and meet force with force... You do not have to disengage..


None of these are a "Get out of Jail" ticket or a no "Civil Suit" ticket but they do protect you much more now the burden of proof has shifted

I have been in two situations where I pulled my handgun in self defense. One I exchanged shots with a burgler and the other I was holding the revolver behind a car door where the potential adversary was not aware that I had it ready to go. One other time reaching into my glove compartment caused two potential perps to turn on their heels and go the other way. I know they were coming at my then wife and I. In the incident where the shots were exchanged I foiled a burglery of my neighbor's house.

I can tell you that when you point a 357 magnum at someone, expecting them to be contrite and submissive , and they don't behave according to your script, but instead are pugnacious and defiant , it is a rude awakening. At that time (early '70s) when it was a different world ..... no right to carry or castle doctrine ... many ramifications go through your mind very fast. I don't really want to kill someone for my neighbor's property, what if he has family or friends who will retaliate ?

Then you quickly realize that if he gets the gun from you that is really not a good situation. Anyway, he had one of his own. No blood shed and he did get away but at least he didn't get my neighbor's property. Anyhow, we can imagine what we would do if this happened or if that happened but when it happens it is very fast and we do what we instinctively have to do. If I had not had the gun, arguably I wouldn't have played the hero and put myself in that situation. OTOH, suppose he had broken into my place with my wife and I there. BTW, the LEOs got there twenty minutes later.

You are all wrong, boys. In USA it is easy to get a gun, so you have a lot of hand guns.
But so does in many other places, like Canada or Russia. Even in my country there is a lot of hand guns. We have 5 million citizen and about 1 million (legal) guns: Nobody knows how many illegal guns we have, souvenirs from the war. Still people do not use them.

Your crime rates where criminal or police has used a hand gun/rifle is a lot higher than elsewhere. What makes people think that using a hand gun/deadly force is a first choice and why it is so acceptable. Just to reflect how the bad guys behave is not a whole truth. Not just bad guys but good guys (police, armed forces) as well.
What makes killing so acceptable? I have no answer, because such acts/crimes elsewhere are much lower.