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    Education is becoming the new housing industry/wall street.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tiddle View Post
    Education is becoming the new housing industry/wall street.
    Huh. And here I thought it was all about for-profit education, but now this? Makes a guy "call for his pipe" and "call for his bowl" (and enough with the fiddling around!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by tiddle View Post
    Education is becoming the new housing industry/wall street.
    It is, and the debt is unsecured and certainly underwritten with little common sense.

    Any collective group of loans greater than 1 year of pre-tax average salary for a graduate should require a business plan, just like any business loan would.

    Otherwise, it's just throwing money away, and the person who is saddled with the debt gets ruined, too.
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    Proposition 64 passed to legalize the possession and use of up to 1 ounce of pot and the growing of up to 6 pot plants on private property that is secure (I think that means fenced). The governor, state AG, and another senior law enforcement official have stated that though they were opposed to the proposition, they will proceed to providing the process to enable the legalization. It's still a Federal no-no.

    I think the view here is that the other states and federal government will be watching closely to see how it rolls out. I'm sure the legality will end up in the Supreme Court. The whole thing will be shut down very quickly if people start going crazy and not follow the laws that get put in place. I'm sure there will be similar laws to the existing alcohol laws: no public drunkeness, no driving, no public drinking unless it's licensed, and so on. It was interesting to hear the people who were strongly behind the proposition commenting on how they know they are being watched, and if they don't follow the guidelines, then all will be lost. So, hopefully we can stop sending people to jail to having a joint on them.

    And, of course, the battles will start on what to do with the new tax revenues. On the Today show there were even commenting that interest in vacation homes should pick up.....

    It will be interesting to see how this rolls out.
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    There are so many good reasons to legalize or at least decriminalize pot. They've pretty much all been talked about but for me the many young, and older people, who are locked up for it is a tragedy. I'm not talking about big time drug runners. I mean the people who deal small time just to break even on what they smoke. I messed with it quite a bit when I was a young man but gave it up 30 years ago. If they legalized it tomorrow I wouldn't smoke it but I really think they ought to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Obelisk View Post
    It's still a Federal no-no.
    They should butt out. Their employees are probably just as big of consumers as everyone else. The laws around it are 50 years antiquated, and legalizing it would do nothing more than stop wasting the money of the people who don't smoke it (like me). I don't smoke it, and don't have any interest in tying up the courts and jails with people who do.

    I certainly would never have heroine, cocaine or methamphetamine legalized, but pot smokers don't fall into the same category.

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    The state might as well stop pretending that they can stop the stuff.....and just legalise it and tax the crap out of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pixelfixed View Post
    Make legal every currant illicit drug known to man,than the criminal eliments of selling it will be gone along with the profits for the bad guys.
    Tax the crap out of it like booze and cigs which are far more dangerous than USP heroin.But first and formost,allow people to make ther own decisions on how to navigate there own lives.


    Quote Originally Posted by pixelfixed View Post
    Addictions are addictions,be it booze,drugs, cigs or candy.
    Are millions of perfectally functioning,intelligent,contributing to society, heroin addicts in this world,The drug in pure form at a known dose has no deleterous effects even long term on the human body.
    I choose not to do drugs, tho in my youth I tried most of what was available in the 60s.I chose to stop drinking to excess many yrs ago because I cannot function at my best peak levels with chemicals on board.
    I choose not to eat candy and dring softdrinks to excess because I want to maintain a normal wgt.
    To me the whole drug issue is all about freedom of choice,is no diff than the abortion issues in this country that women face,it's my body,let me control how it functions.
    I think the best thing america could do for those that choose to be addicted is to provide them with pure, clean,known doses of the drug of choice and de-criminalize the entire issue,all the crime would go away overnight.
    We all have the choice to use or not use drugs and alcohol,the govt should stop telling us what we can and cannot do.Rant over.
    Make Pot legal, not a bad idea. The rest of the Scheduled Narcotics, not a good idea. There is the Health Care issue portion of that to deal with which would be a huge cost. I don't think the taxes would cover the medical issues some drugs cause.

    Having said that...PUFF PUFF PASS.........
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    After Tuesday's election, well just have to wait and see how things play out in Colorado and Washington. Being the first states to legalize recreational use, they will, no doubt, be looked upon as guinea pigs.

    Here's to hoping people in those two states don't f*ck it up...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mvcrash View Post
    Make Pot legal, not a bad idea. The rest of the Scheduled Narcotics, not a good idea. There is the Health Care issue portion of that to deal with which would be a huge cost. I don't think the taxes would cover the medical issues some drugs cause.

    Having said that...PUFF PUFF PASS.........
    The vast majority of med. issues are caused by adultrated ilicit drugs and dirty delivery systems.
    Give the junkies pure stuff,in a known dose with clean equipment.
    Let them go on with the life they choose to live.
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