Thread: The New Republic of Texas?

Originally Posted by Catrentshaving

I wish I could start a petition...

Dude - you can - this is America. Wait! You are in Canada. What do you want to petition up there?

Anyway - 100,000 people - not even anywhere near a percent of the population have started to petition from all over the country. Why the White House is even going to bother addressing Texas is beyond me - but whatever.

It seems everyone around the world is getting a kick out of it though... sigh.

BBC News - US election: Unhappy Americans ask to secede from US

My question is why ask to secede? Why not just secede? Asking permission to leave something you don't want to be a part of seems like you conceded your freedom along time ago.

Uh yup - read up on a little thing called the civil war.


But seriously - guys in black choppers can remove 100,000 people in a night. This isn't going anywhere. Sounds like some Americans are having Quebec envy... sigh

Originally Posted by earcutter

. Why the White House is even going to bother addressing Texas is beyond me - but whatever.

If I remember right, anytime a state gets 25000+ signatures on a secession petition within one month, the goverment has to form a formal response.

If they'd put all the states on one petition to leave the union, they'd already be there. As of a minute ago, Florida had 17000 and change.

Originally Posted by 1OldGI

If they'd put all the states on one petition to leave the union, they'd already be there. As of a minute ago, Florida had 17000 and change.

Yeah, and if they'd put all the people who petition these things to vote for the same presidential candidate... well apparently they fall a tad short to elect him and instead of doing something productive with their lives they'd be writing useless petitions.
But yeah, this is U.S.A. and everybody is free to be almost as stupid as they want to be.

"You know, comrades," says Stalin, "that I think in regard to this: I consider it completely unimportant who in the party will vote, or how; but what is extraordinarily important is this — who will count the votes, and how."

That said, Gugi, you may indeed have the last laugh. The signatories of these petitions may in fact be the first among us hauled off to re-education camps to make us compliant little socialists with a clearer picture of how brutal and oppressive free market capitalism is.

Nothing new under the sun:

The Paranoid Style in American Politics

I assume that for a secession, the state would need something like a 2/3 vote for changing their states constitution.
I think the split in Texas was something like 45% Obama, 55% Romney. Or something to that effect.

So even if every Romney voter would choose a secession (which is probably unlikely) they still wouldn't have the base to do so. It is also unlikely that a secession will make things better for Texas, because it will have significant fiscal, budgettary and economic impact. None of which are probably considered by the people signing the petition Secceding from the big bad socialist federal government will magically make everything better.

It would be fun to watch the US turning into a loose combination of bickering states though. It would quickly make the global influence of the US on the world a lot less. And perhaps, every state could maintain its own standing army? That would naturally go with secession. There is enough dislike between different states / groups of people, and there are enough 'weak' states that this would be an interesting and volatile situation. Kinda like what Europe was like around 1900. And we all know how well that turned out.

I'd say go for it! There are places in the US where the civil war is not yet over anyway. You might as well settle those old grievances.

The Balkanization of the US, what an appealing prospect, NOT. In modern times we have been further down that road than the US Clarity Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia and it ain't pretty.

Bob