Thread: The New Republic of Texas?

Originally Posted by Bruno

I assume that for a secession, the state would need something like a 2/3 vote for changing their states constitution.
I think the split in Texas was something like 45% Obama, 55% Romney. Or something to that effect.

So even if every Romney voter would choose a secession (which is probably unlikely) they still wouldn't have the base to do so. It is also unlikely that a secession will make things better for Texas, because it will have significant fiscal, budgettary and economic impact. None of which are probably considered by the people signing the petition Secceding from the big bad socialist federal government will magically make everything better.

It would be fun to watch the US turning into a loose combination of bickering states though. It would quickly make the global influence of the US on the world a lot less. And perhaps, every state could maintain its own standing army? That would naturally go with secession. There is enough dislike between different states / groups of people, and there are enough 'weak' states that this would be an interesting and volatile situation. Kinda like what Europe was like around 1900. And we all know how well that turned out.

I'd say go for it! There are places in the US where the civil war is not yet over anyway. You might as well settle those old grievances.

Texas Vs. White,

Chief Justice delivered the majority opinion.
“ When, therefore, Texas became one of the United States, she entered into an indissoluble relation. All the obligations of perpetual union, and all the guaranties of republican government in the Union, attached at once to the State. The act which consummated her admission into the Union was something more than a compact; it was the incorporation of a new member into the political body. And it was final. The union between Texas and the other States was as complete, as perpetual, and as indissoluble as the union between the original States. There was no place for reconsideration or revocation, except through revolution or through consent of the States.[7] ”

I hope your post was meant in jest.

Texas is one of the few states that can truly make it on it's own, without any other help. Even if that statement is less than 100% correct, it's dang close...more-so than any of the other states in the US.

I'm game, lets do it!

Originally Posted by Mvcrash

Texas Vs. White,

Chief Justice delivered the majority opinion.
“ When, therefore, Texas became one of the United States, she entered into an indissoluble relation. All the obligations of perpetual union, and all the guaranties of republican government in the Union, attached at once to the State. The act which consummated her admission into the Union was something more than a compact; it was the incorporation of a new member into the political body. And it was final. The union between Texas and the other States was as complete, as perpetual, and as indissoluble as the union between the original States. There was no place for reconsideration or revocation, except through revolution or through consent of the States.[7] ”

I hope your post was meant in jest.

So in the judicial ruling the judge admits it can be done in one of two ways. Consent of the States is so remote a possibility as to be a non starter and if people were serious that leaves revolution and all it's consequences. If people are not serious they are just blowing air and looking for some cheese to go with their whine.

Bob

What makes you think that Texas can be a self-sufficient nation, shooter?

I'm by no means trying to incite an argument, but I have trouble believing it could sustain itself. I am curious as to what you have taken into consideration when making that statement.

If i remember correctly , Texas didn't do to well on it's own... But on the other hand we could ue the buffer agianst Mexico...

Originally Posted by 1OldGI

Apparently Texas is not alone. There are 19 more states petitioning for succession. 20 states petition to secede after Obama reelection - National Government | Examiner.com Apparently, the Socialist Republic of America isn't as popular as some would have you believe. Gotta go sign a petition fellas, cheers.

Just a question here, have you lived in a socialist republic before? How do you know what it is like?
I do not hear the Germans complain of their country, or the French, English, etc.
I do not think anyone born and raised in US has any idea what socialist republic means, reading media articles about it is not helping, unless you lived in one you will never understand it.

It always strikes me as amazing how people find it easier to try and tear something down than to roll up their sleeves and fix it in a co-operative and constructive manner. Shakes head.

Bob

Originally Posted by mainaman

Just a question here, have you lived in a socialist republic before? How do you know what it is like?
I do not hear the Germans complain of their country, or the French, English, etc.
I do not think anyone born and raised in US has any idea what socialist republic means, reading media articles about it is not helping, unless you lived in one you will never understand it.

I think you have a point there. I have lived in Kanuckistan all my life and have no major complaints that would make me want to leave. It is not perfect but the alternatives are worse.

Bob

Originally Posted by AspiringPolymath

What makes you think that Texas can be a self-sufficient nation, shooter?

I'm by no means trying to incite an argument, but I have trouble believing it could sustain itself. I am curious as to what you have taken into consideration when making that statement.

They'll just go raiding across the border in neighboring states

Originally Posted by mainaman

Just a question here, have you lived in a socialist republic before? How do you know what it is like?
I do not hear the Germans complain of their country, or the French, English, etc.

I wonder if the Germans or the Brits would even go along with being called socialist republics..
Really, most of Europe ain't excactly Cuba guys.
Heck, I live in a much more socialist state than all of those, and in all honesty, it ain't half bad here either!