Thread: Assault weopen carnage agian?

Originally Posted by JimmyHAD

The reason that most states, in the USA, allow licensed concealed carry, and most reciprocal from state to state, is because the armed citizen is a strong prohibitive influence against crime.

Had those teachers been armed, and proficient with their weapons, there would have been a different story this morning.

Plus eleventy bazillion.

Also, when's the last time this stunt was pulled in a police station or around armed soldiers (ft hood doesn't count, they weren't armed)??

This happens in gun free zones because the bad guy knows he has the upper hand.

Originally Posted by scap99

Can you cite references to your stats?

What crime have I committed by owning my legally purchased guns?

I stated all the stats, across most of the text of the world in the last automatic rifle discussion. They were met with cynicism even though they mostly came from academic papers. People basically said "yeah but that's not America" or showed weak stats or statements to show the opposite.

Originally Posted by scap99

Can you cite references to your stats?

What crime have I committed by owning my legally purchased guns?

Originally Posted by JimmyHAD

The reason that most states, in the USA, allow licensed concealed carry, and most reciprocal from state to state, is because the armed citizen is a strong prohibitive influence against crime.

Had those teachers been armed, and proficient with their weapons, there would have been a different story this morning.

I strongly disagree, ricochet fire, pressure, and do you really want to have THAT learning environment for your children?

Originally Posted by straightrazorheaven

I stated all the stats, across most of the text of the world in the last automatic rifle discussion. They were met with cynicism even though they mostly came from academic papers. People basically said "yeah but that's not America" or showed weak stats or statements to show the opposite.

Sorry. I'm still new here and wasn't aware of the previous thread.

I'm not sure, but I don't think automatic weapons have been used to commit a crime here in the states in the last few decades.
They were first restricted in 1934, then in 68, again in 86.

The cheapest full auto is usually over $10k.

Originally Posted by straightrazorheaven

I strongly disagree, ricochet fire, pressure, and do you really want to have THAT learning environment for your children?

They get to live, so without a doubt.

Originally Posted by scap99

Can you cite references to your stats?

What crime have I committed by owning my legally purchased guns?

Originally Posted by scap99

They get to live, so without a doubt.

They get to live no matter where they go, feeling safe that they are unlikely to get shot off there are no legal firearms.

Originally Posted by straightrazorheaven

I stated all the stats, across most of the text of the world in the last automatic rifle discussion. They were met with cynicism even though they mostly came from academic papers. People basically said "yeah but that's not America" or showed weak stats or statements to show the opposite.

Hehehehehe Yeah which were countered by real crime stats but go ahead and call the FBI and Scotland Yard weak stats

Originally Posted by scap99

Can you cite references to your stats?

What crime have I committed by owning my legally purchased guns?

Originally Posted by gssixgun

Hehehehehe Yeah which were countered by real crime stats

Also known as sponsored crime stats

First, my sympathies go to the community and for all those people affected.

Now to Glen's point about information, I believe several news outlets reported that the shooter's brother was actually the killer, and they provided his name, age, and picture to the public. The poor guy has to live with his brother committing this act, and on top of it all of his social media profiles are now rife with hatred toward him. On top of that, the living brother happened to like a video game (Mass Effect) and their social media sites were taking hits because of the misinformation. This is the sad state of our news affairs and it has nothing to do with the "liberal" or "conservative" media. It's about the media trying to be first on a story.

The hot topic is always gun control and never about how the criminal could have been helped before the crime, or, more importantly IMHO, how the media glorifies these events. Charlie Brooker had an interesting story on this, and skip to 1:40 if you just want to hear the interview with a forensic psychiatrist:

Charlie Brooker's Newswipe 25/03/09 - YouTube