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    I don't shoot it super fast very often unless it's a competition of some sort or yearly qualifications. It's a fun gun to shoot out at 200 or even 300 yards and see how small a group you can fire. It's a lot of fun shooting slow as well. Sometimes I use the folding iron sights or the red dot.
    As far as recoil there isn't a whole lot even when pushing a bullet at 3000FPS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunner777 View Post
    pushing a bullet at 3000FPS.
    Is that 3 times the speed of sound in air?
    Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose. Jean-Baptiste Alphonse Karr.

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    Great shooter Gunner and the guys at CMMG are tops! Because of the gas system the AK barrel flexes and causes the inaccuracy. The inline/straightline buffer system of the AR improves accuracy as well as "back on target time". For all of you guys that do not have free access to these types of goodies, what are you waiting for, the door is wide open!
    It is easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled. Twain

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    On yea you have that right. Have you ever seen the slow motion film the Army did showing both guns in auto fire. That AK barrel was bouncing all over the place. In fact it bounces so much that you need to keep an extra foregrip top cover because they crack from flexing.

    Lets see Mach 3---closer to Mach 4 since Mach 1 is a bit over 700 MPH at sea level.

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    I thought the "sonic" line was around 1150fps???


    Either way, the bullet gets there before the boom.


    (well.....as long as its within 600 yards or so lol)


    Do you mind me asking what twist-rate barrel you have?

    If you use it for really long range stuff I think you'd do well to try the heaviest bullets you can. Everyone seems to love them in the 22s. I only have a 22-250 with a 1-14" twist...so I'm limited to 55gr tops, and it prefers the 45gr. I've thought more than once about rebarreling to a 1-8".

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    I love the AR, especially in .458 SOCOM! From the back...

    Rock River Arms EOP Varmint 24"- a .223 that shoots .5 moa 10-20 round groups all day long as long as you clean the barrel at about 20 rounds. Almost boring to shoot.

    Rock River Arms .458 SOCOM - 45-70 ballistics & bullet (up to 600gr bullet) out of an AR! "One round puts them down!" My favorite AR to date.

    Rock River Arms lower & Model 1 Sales upper in 7.62x39...beats an AK-47 in accuracy!

    DPMS lower, RRA match internals & Model 1 Sales upper (16") in .223, short and sweet...

    I still have a several lowers that I need to put together at some time or another...
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    There ya go shooter now that's what I'm talking about! Nice collection and that 458 is a real powerhouse!

    Oh yea the twist is 1 in 7

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    Thanks. Your new toy should be a lot of fun as well.

    My AR collection is like the tide, usually 3-6. The permanent keepers are the .458 Socom and the RRA 24" EOP. I'm always trading, selling, & buying (as funding permits). Now I need to invent a "quick detach SR" and we will have a complete "utility" rifle!!
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    That sounds like the same thing I do:-) I'll be keeping this one but yep unless you have tons of money that's about the best way to get something new.

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    I may not have a ton of money, but I do have a lot of wishful thinking!!!
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