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    Nothing wrong with that, as long as you are careful and know which ones to buy.

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    Gotta love the watch convos and comments by the Ill informed,you would be an idiot to pay 4 K for a Breitling made today,Breitling no longer exsists,nor do's Omega,It's all ETA guys,owned by swatch who is owned by ROLEX,and for the money,they make crap for watches,JMHO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pixelfixed View Post
    Gotta love the watch convos and comments by the Ill informed,you would be an idiot to pay 4 K for a Breitling made today,Breitling no longer exsists,nor do's Omega,It's all ETA guys,owned by swatch who is owned by ROLEX,and for the money,they make crap for watches,JMHO.
    So here's this orthographically challenged moron with a painful lack of social skills calling other people "Ill informed" and "idiots", without even having the courtesy to check his facts first. Not very nice. Here's the scoop, genius:


    • Breitling is independently owned by the Schneider family of Switzerland.
    • Rolex SA is a privately owned company, and does not own or have shares in the Swatch group.
    • ETA is indeed a wholly owned subsidiary of the Swatch group, which also owns the following brands: Breguet, Blancpain, Glashütte Original, Jaquet Droz, Léon Hatot, Omega, Longines, Rado, Union Glashütte, Tissot, Calvin Klein Watches + Jewelry, Balmain, Certina, Mido, Hamilton, Swatch, Flik Flak, Endura and Tourbillon. ETA technically has a hand in all these brands, and others, because as a company, it is the largest producer of Swiss watch movements in the world - however, its manufacturers do not just produce a single movement that goes into all these different watches...


    The comment that "for the money, they make crap for watches" is amusing. Gonna go out on a limb here, but I seriously doubt that you could tell a good watch if it sat on your face. JMHO
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    Calm down and behave like Gentlemen.
    Both of you.

    We are discussing watches, not their users.

    Carry on.

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    Let's switch gears for a moment, there are many fine watch manufacturers out there. However, if anyone, picked up a watch annual lately? Have you seen the prices have you seen the prices of some of these upper tier watches? I so watch manufactured by a company called DeWitt the watch was absolutely gorgeous. And then I looked at the price a mere $750,000 then I looked at some of the Zenith brand their top-of-the-line deify chronograph is in the same neighborhood at about $500,000, it must be nice to be able to go out and buy these. The frightening thing is that they're selling, must be nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grizzley1 View Post
    ... And then I looked at the price a mere $750,000 then I looked at some of the Zenith brand their top-of-the-line deify chronograph is in the same neighborhood at about $500,000, it must be nice to be able to go out and buy these. The frightening thing is that they're selling, must be nice.
    For a thing which tells time? That is insane. I thought I had splurged when I dropped $250 on a new watch a couple of years ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReardenSteel View Post
    For a thing which tells time? That is insane. I thought I had splurged when I dropped $250 on a new watch a couple of years ago.
    Some people might think it is insane to use 750USD on a thing which shaves hair too. It all depends on your income, how much money you have in the bank and your hobbies.
    If you have enough money then $750,000 doesn't matter.

    I felt I splurged when I bought my Rolex Sea-Dweller in 1999, I can sell it for lots more now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grizzley1 View Post
    I personally used to love Invicta, however, I've had to send back more than I've kept in the past couple years. Most of the things on the websites are true. If you do a little investigating and the Dubois DuPree movements are gray market in the sense that they were bought, not from the company but from a third-party. I bought one of those watches and it did not work. I sent it back. I got another one. It also did not work and neither did the third. Then I called shop NBC and found they were pulled to quality problems. These are facts. You can argue with me all night, but you can't argue with the facts. You're right the Swiss do have very strict laws which is why they're in so much trouble if you look a little deeper into some of the sites you will see the court papers which is why you watch shop NBC. Now they make sure you know if the lots they are selling has a Japanese or Chinese movement and it. The tourbillion they are selling now are from a company called Seagull, and are Chinese. They're the same movements that android and sterling are using and they are the first ones to tell you where they come from. Some of them shadier practices have stopped but if you notice , so have the most of their Swiss made automatic movements. I used to buy the high-end watches as they were a bargain and were Swiss made. Unfortunately this is not the case at this point time. Big spender, I know you're not a dummy dig a little deeper and you'll see a lot of these things are true, although you're right there are a lot of haters out there and they did make some nice watches
    I'm no fan of Invicta and never was though I have a couple. As far as the mechanical chrono mvmts go the base is an ETA 2892 and that is a fact. The chronograph add on on mine has all the hallmarks and as far as mine goes it runs to chrono specs. Invicta has pretty much stopped using Swiss Mvmts not because of any lawsuits but because they are getting very difficult to get for all watch makers and Invicta has a sales model where they sell volume and make little on each watch so the Swiss mechanical watches are out of that model. That's why you see mostly quartz and mechanicals from other countries.

    The times I have watched Shop NBC it was always clear to me where the watches were from. if it was a Stelita mvmt that was clear to me or if it was an ETA 2824 or 2892. If it was a Swiss parts piece it was so described and so were the Japanese and Chinese pieces. Obviously the Tourbillon is Chinese. Anyone who might think they were getting a Swiss one for that price would have to be crazy and when I saw that piece they said it was Chinese.

    Invicta has always changed the model. A few years ago they were into jewelry watches studded with diamonds and other gems. You don't see those anymore. Then they were into Swiss Made stuff and they are getting out of that now. Their factories are in Panama and the Swiss stuff is contract made.

    I would think if they were being sued you would hear about it on Timezone but I have seen nothing about it. I don't frequent other watch sites other than the Seiko-Citizen Forum and no one has mentioned that there either.

    As far as Invicta goes anything concerning them I'm skeptical about either pro or con until I see the evidence. The few watches I have have all been exactly as advertised so...
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    When you get into the higher prices in watches the fact it is a watch isn't the point. It's more a status symbol or jewelry piece or something to give you bragging rights. The fact is for way less than a thousand bucks you can get a very nice watch with and very high quality too that will last you the rest of your life. With many outfits, they sell few watches and spend heavily on advertising and celebrity endorsement and someone has to pay for all of that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReardenSteel View Post
    For a thing which tells time? That is insane. I thought I had splurged when I dropped $250 on a new watch a couple of years ago.
    Well, I don't quite agree with you on that one
    As far as I'm concerned, a watch is basically the only acceptable way for a man to wear jewelry, or luxury if you will.
    That and a wedding band really. IMHO.
    So, since I only tolerate that as jewelry on a guy, why not get something that will be with you for years to come, and that looks and feels a bit classy?
    I've spent a fair bit on my watches, and have absolutely no remorse whatsoever
    Bjoernar
    Um, all of them, any of them that have been in front of me over all these years....


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