Thread: Fastest progression possible

Originally Posted by onimaru55

Not with only 15 minutes of honing.

You do realise that some crumbly old sheffields will never take a bevel on a dmt ? They will always look like they got exploded with C4.
Other steels will still get uneccesarily abraded & then you've got more than 15 mins to optimise the edge.

I think you & I have differing views on "shave ready". So be it.

Remember this isn't a "whats your usual progression, its a whats the fastest progression, thread" I do this when I am in a hurry and have a used up razor, I have shaved off one and then do the usual maintenance and I get a comfortable shave.

Originally Posted by Memorael

Remember this isn't a "whats your usual progression, its a whats the fastest progression, thread" I do this when I am in a hurry and have a used up razor, I have shaved off one and then do the usual maintenance and I get a comfortable shave.

Well in that case, the guy with the belt sander beats all of us.
I fact I've done that in my early days too. Worn 600 grit belt to Swansdown buff loaded with CrO.
That was an acceptable shave for me ...30 years ago.

Originally Posted by onimaru55

Well in that case, the guy with the belt sander beats all of us.
I fact I've done that in my early days too. Worn 600 grit belt to Swansdown buff loaded with CrO.
That was an acceptable shave for me ...30 years ago.

I doubt a belt sander is faster than dmt c to coti. But send me your adress and I'll send you a medal for fastest and least comfortable shave belt honing progression

Originally Posted by Memorael

I doubt a belt sander is faster than dmt c to coti. But send me your adress and I'll send you a medal for fastest and least comfortable shave belt honing progression

Here's how Dovo does it, it looks to be (about 7:30) bevel setting on a wheel and hand finishing

https://youtu.be/z_-s0phRZng

Originally Posted by rodb

Here's how Dovo does it, it looks to be (about 7:30) bevel setting on a wheel and hand finishing

https://youtu.be/z_-s0phRZng

The purpose of the coarse wheel is hollowing the sides of the razor. On the second process it polishes it, and is also water cooled.
The bevel was not their primary concern but how hollow are the sides.
Messing the process is extremely easy, and even a few micrometers of removed metal on a tiny spot that is unnoticeable even by the eyes of someone experienced, will appear awful after sharpening/honing. Taking care of the bevel at the same time, this specific way and with this equipment, guarantees that the grind is uniform/symmetric and if nothing else, the razor's shape is good enough.

Originally Posted by Memorael

I doubt a belt sander is faster than dmt c to coti. But send me your adress and I'll send you a medal for fastest and least comfortable shave belt honing progression

All out of troll food.
Buh-bye

The woman doing the honing started on a rotating wheel then moved to what looks to be a Norton 8k and stropped. I might be wrong but it looks like bevel setting on that horizontal wheel. I know the guy was doing the hollow grinding.

Originally Posted by Vasilis

The purpose of the coarse wheel is hollowing the sides of the razor. On the second process it polishes it, and is also water cooled.
The bevel was not their primary concern but how hollow are the sides.
Messing the process is extremely easy, and even a few micrometers of removed metal on a tiny spot that is unnoticeable even by the eyes of someone experienced, will appear awful after sharpening/honing. Taking care of the bevel at the same time, this specific way and with this equipment, guarantees that the grind is uniform/symmetric and if nothing else, the razor's shape is good enough.

Originally Posted by rodb

The woman doing the honing started on a rotating wheel then moved to what looks to be a Norton 8k and stropped. I might be wrong but it looks like bevel setting on that horizontal wheel. I know the guy was doing the hollow grinding.

Yes, I haven't mentioned the rest of the process which I find less than orthodox to say the least. That's why a lot of companies that buy Dovo razors from factory, have someone hone them before selling them. But I suppose the factory edge is shave-able. Setting bevel on a rotating wheel means the razor's wear will be uneven, the closer the point to the center, the less the wear. And there is of course the matter of lapping; someone doing this all day won't be lapping the wheel every 5' or so I expect.

My Dovo factory edge was less than exceptable. I can't tell from the video if the spine is ever so slightly off the spinning stone.

Originally Posted by Vasilis

Yes, I haven't mentioned the rest of the process which I find less than orthodox to say the least. That's why a lot of companies that buy Dovo razors from factory, have someone hone them before selling them. But I suppose the factory edge is shave-able. Setting bevel on a rotating wheel means the razor's wear will be uneven, the closer the point to the center, the less the wear. And there is of course the matter of lapping; someone doing this all day won't be lapping the wheel every 5' or so I expect.

I believe that dovo video was produced in the late 90's early 2000's. I have no criticism, the razor is hollowed by a master grinder and the honing looks decent with a hanging hair test that undoubtably would yield a satisfactory shave. The yellow stone looks more like a large coticule.

Now, does Dovo still produce razors in this fashion? I wouldn't be so sure. Demand has gone up, a lot of those skilled grinders are dead and more cnc machines are being used.

The dovo razors I acquired between 2003 and 2006 were very nicely made. I can't say the same for the current stuff.