Thread: Shoobie Doobie Asagi

Glad it works so well! Just for fun, have you tried it w/ really hard steel yet? (Thinking C135 or a Friodur as I'd like to pick both up eventually!) Would you rate the sharpness as comparable to 0.5 diamond on felt? How about an Escher when used that way Sham does it (very light slurry allowed to break down w/o diluting)? I love the smoothness of naturals, but I also love sharp! (My Nakayama used to give me that before I had to lap it--now it's nowhere near as good.)

Originally Posted by PA23-250

Glad it works so well! Just for fun, have you tried it w/ really hard steel yet? (Thinking C135 or a Friodur as I'd like to pick both up eventually!) Would you rate the sharpness as comparable to 0.5 diamond on felt? How about an Escher when used that way Sham does it (very light slurry allowed to break down w/o diluting)? I love the smoothness of naturals, but I also love sharp! (My Nakayama used to give me that before I had to lap it--now it's nowhere near as good.)

Sorry to hear about your Nakayama. Do you use it with slurry? I have a few Escher's myself. I do use a slurry, but i don't allow it to dry, I dilute, and finish with water. My edges are buttery smooth. I also have the hard wool felt with .5 diamond.

It's not like either. In other words, I would know the difference. It's quite keen, not irritating keen though like diamonds. It's keener than you'd get off an Escher (My favorite finisher btw) These Shoubudani are rated above 30k..... Hope that makes sense. I do have a Friodur, and some Sheffields, which are ridiculously hard, Those W&B Wedges can be a challenge...But I agree, The Friodur is pretty damm hard....

I'll say this, an experienced honer, would be quite happy with this stone....

It used to work great w/ the Iwasaki (thick slurry) method. Now it works best w/ a light slurry going to near-water. I'd rate it as maybe 12k-ish now. My barber's Thurries give a slightly better finish. Not sure if either is an Escher or not, though.

No idea what my Nakayama (it's actually a Kiita, which I'm told are not as hard as others) was before I got to the new layer; only that it used to be a good notch higher in sharpness than the Thurries, which are excellent.

I'm definitely talking to Maxim as soon as I get off my backside & actually do my taxes!

Originally Posted by PA23-250

Glad it works so well! Just for fun, have you tried it w/ really hard steel yet? (Thinking C135 or a Friodur as I'd like to pick both up eventually!) Would you rate the sharpness as comparable to 0.5 diamond on felt? How about an Escher when used that way Sham does it (very light slurry allowed to break down w/o diluting)? I love the smoothness of naturals, but I also love sharp! (My Nakayama used to give me that before I had to lap it--now it's nowhere near as good.)

I use a very very hard oozuku, for finisher and never had problems with Fridours and C135 TI's.

I got mine too yesterday, I mounted on a cedar base.
The stone took forever to lap except 2 corners, it is very very fine and smooth stone. I tried the stone with water only one a few razors that were finished on 12k SS, it took ~20 laps to get the edges where I like them.
Definitely a great buy.

Actually, I had a member over to the house today and showed him how to do the one stone method on mine. Very nice feedback from this stone. I used a razor in decent shape to start with and did 40 heavy circles both ways on a heavy slurry followed by 10 X strokes followed by 40 heavy circles both ways on a medium slurry followed by 40 no pressure circles both ways followed by 10 no pressure X strokes followed by 10 no pressure X strokes on light slurry and 10 no pressure on just water. Came away with a nice shaver. The slurry stone was a Coticule. Should we call this the ShoobieDoobieCot????

Anyway, this is a nice stone. Next up is the Ozuku Asagi.......

Have fun,

Lynn

Just emailed Maxim--hope we can find a super-sharp one that I can afford...

Originally Posted by PA23-250

(My Nakayama used to give me that before I had to lap it--now it's nowhere near as good.)

Did you lap with diamond stone?
Did you lap after the diamond stone with another Jnats?

You need to get a mirror flat surface after lapping.

I used my D8C for lapping. I also used it to raise slurry on the stone during the period where it worked well. I always cleaned it out extremely well before taking it to the Nakayama. Don't think that's the issue as it used to work great that way. I know some other guys have used a D8C also & while not an Atoma 1200, it does seem to work, @ least w/ those respective stones. No idea if those stones are more tolerant or not. WHen I get the new one, I'll probably use a tomonagura on it.

i bought one of those too.
I hope it will act same as your describe Rich(i hope i didn't mess up name). if not i am sending it to you and you got to cover the damage.
have fun.