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Thread: JNAT Honing nirvana for the noob
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11-03-2016, 09:24 AM #31
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11-03-2016, 09:54 AM #32
I edited my post before you replied
I only work with 2 jnats over the last few years so my experience is limited.
However I was unaware that that butter knife edge feel can be had from synthetic stones .
I have Chosera and Shapton glass range and over the years had some drop dead edges but Nower days they are boxed and put away.
My Nakayama is in different league to them and gives much better results..
This is in my experience ...
Thanks for the lengthy response..
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11-03-2016, 01:16 PM #33
Thank you for taking the time to write this up and post it. Not only will it be helpful to newb's but also advanced users like myself. I love to hear about progressions, techniques employed, tests used, and results achieved! It sounds like you are getting wonderful results based on a lot of practice and research. Great job! Of course I read this looking for things I could relate to and learn from and not things I disagreed with or ways I am superior in my ability. So with that in mind, once again I say thank you for taking the time to give back to the community adding to the experience here and the knowledge.
What a curse be a dull razor; what a prideful comfort a sharp one
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11-04-2016, 12:19 AM #34
Again I have to apologise for not being clear. I think it's on his video where he does a quick dry shave test on his cheek & says the quote about not feeling anything. IIRC he finished on a CrO strop.
So basically there's more than one way to skin a cat. If you have the 30 k GS give it another try some time down the track you may even find a way to integrate it with your Jnats.The white gleam of swords, not the black ink of books, clears doubts and uncertainties and bleak outlooks.
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11-04-2016, 12:32 AM #35
I just love the synthetics.....Coti..Escher.
Might get into the JNats someday. So much controversy.
Seems you must buy lots of little rocks and several big ones. Learn Japanese. Let's do that!
Experiment until the cows come home. Then, go feed the cows.
I am always interested in it, however. Great edges to be had!
They say to sit and watch Bayamontate is quite a treat!Last edited by sharptonn; 11-04-2016 at 12:38 AM.
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11-04-2016, 03:45 AM #36
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11-04-2016, 05:06 AM #37
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Thanked: 14You are welcome. Like I said before, it was only meant for beginners but if others found it useful that's great. If I found a thread like this from the beginning I would have learned to max out my stones quicker.
Shobudani type 100 stones can be had for like 60 bucks. Although I don't have one I heard they make fantastic edges without spending 450-650 dollars on an ozuku or 1200 on a nakayama.I bought my Ozuku 5+ stone at www.japanesenaturalstones.com and emailing Maksim has been great. There are other venders that I heard are good and I believe are listed here. Good luck.
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11-04-2016, 11:59 AM #38
Have you ever seen maskims videos of him honing? He is impressive in his knowledge and ability.
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11-06-2016, 03:54 AM #39
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11-06-2016, 09:18 AM #40
It is all a matter of personal taste really. You can get perfect edges using synthetics, coticules, Eschers and Jnats.
I remember Lynn once posting that after lots of experiments with all sorts of natural stones he went back to using synthetics because they are way more predictable than naturals.
To all noobs I would say: get to grips with honing first before you start experimenting with Jnats and naguras.
Only when I had mastered honing with an Escher I started improving the edge with a Nakayama many years ago. Only recently did I buy a large Oozuku mizu and a full set of Mikawa Naguras to experiment with.Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose. Jean-Baptiste Alphonse Karr.