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Thread: The......Belgian Brotherhood?
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08-12-2010, 04:50 PM #101
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For what its worth, I think its a natural. There looks to be a natural line rather than a glued one. Look at my earlier post and you can see my 3 cotis. Two of them have a sharp difference like yours, while all 3 of them are natural.
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08-12-2010, 06:01 PM #102
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08-13-2010, 11:36 AM #103
Oh, well I stand corrected then
And it was my bad with the natural/artificial confusion, too.
I missed the point.
I donīt think there is a difference in the look and appearance of the border.
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08-13-2010, 01:18 PM #104
Geez, That's the nicest natural I've ever seen in that size. You usually don't get much Coti. I'd love for you to send a pic to Bart and get his input. If you don't have his email, send me a pm...I can tell you this, if that is an 8x3 natural combo, it's worth quite a bit...they're pretty rare these days, especially in that size...IIRC
As vendor for Ardnennes, I can tell you quality in Coticules comes in the grades, standard, selected and Kohser. Kosher is clean, through and through, no flaws, fissures, cracks, etc...Selected has a clean surface, may have hidden flaws, and Standard, well, they have flaws, veins, etc..visably, on the surface...
I think the problem the others are pointing out, is that stone looks too good to be a natural, based on what we've seen. Not to say it isn't.
But, Beauty is only skin deep, How does it cut...? that's the true test....
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08-13-2010, 02:45 PM #105
That depends, if it is genuinely a true natural I would say there is no difference. If you have an eye loupe or a microscope take a look at the seam to confirm it one way or the other. While the 'true' natural formed by metamorphic forces has more 'cool' factor it is not better than a glued combo. It may not be as good as some individual stones or it may be better. IME with a couple of dozen there have been slight differences but they have all been reasonably close in performance.
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08-13-2010, 03:55 PM #106
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08-14-2010, 03:50 AM #107
For the skeptics...
Here's a few detail shots to mollify the skeptics that thought my 8x3 stone was not a "nztural combo".
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08-14-2010, 08:47 AM #108
yes, it is much more evident now. Itīs clearly a natural.
Unfortunately it seems to be grown to schist* that is (almost) unusable for sharpening action.
But the stone is extremely nice anyway!
*unless the colouration of the picture is messed upLast edited by Lesslemming; 08-14-2010 at 08:51 AM.
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08-14-2010, 10:10 AM #109
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Thanked: 19Looks to me like there are actually three layers. 1) Coticule with a natural contact to a 2) thin BBW layer (lighter color in middle). The bottom of the BBW has been lapped and glued to 3) a schist (darker, thicker layer at bottom). Pics 1 and 3 show this best. I'd say the BBW was deemed too thin to be usable (or stable) and was glued to the schist.
That's my interpretation. YMMV....Last edited by Woodash; 08-14-2010 at 10:12 AM.
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08-14-2010, 10:18 AM #110