Thread: I'm not sure what to say about this.

I would really like to see the video of the 3k class! Btw we can fill many jars with nuts if we ask more people here (and take a look the messages under the video!). It appears Mr Murray didn't understand the "strangers dojo" story. I want the video with the half shoe and ketchup honing as a responce on youtube!

Originally Posted by jahaworth

I'd give my left nut to do that course with him!!!

Be careful what you pray for ........ he's got a sharp spoon ..... (no offense Murray, just funnin')

Well now... what to say. If I were GSSIXGUN I would decline the offer. The point that most of us have been making in this thread is not if the spoon, ah , razor was sharp but would it meet our standards of shave ready. My professional opinion is no. Murray's spoons, er, razors would not be smooth enough to shave with. We have here one person that is peddling his wears on youtube as a method to hone razors. Yep, they may be sharp but that is where it would end. Remember guys, SRP is an international forum of straight razor shavers. Neither GSSIXGUN, myself or even Lynn have conjured up our honing methods on our own. Our methods have been tested my many of our 30,000 world wide members of straight razor shavers of many walks and talents. If I were GSSIXGUN I would decline the offer. I do not have time to waste on this dribble and Murray doesn't seem interested in learning, just teaching his own methods . I would have no interest in wasting my time trying to convince him of the differences or teach him the proper way.

I'd take the class just to walk away with some new bits of pretty steel. That being said, I doubt Mr. Carter actually has a desire to learn the "traditional" way to hone a razor. Duct tape and all. I have a sneaky suspicion that it would be three agonizing days of why we're bullies.
(the comments, as well as the description of the video are awesome).

Originally Posted by Vasilis

Btw the most neutral member in this conversation was gssixgun.

Although that might be true on here, I was much more vocal on the Carter You Tube Channel, but that was censored off...

Also many times the actual messenger of news ie: The Senior Mod that notifies people of Mod decisions is oft times blamed as the single voice of SRP, when in all actuality no one Mod ever makes a decision here...

As to the offer, I guess I will answer that in kind, on my own You-Tube Channel, in a vid, when I get a free minute...

Originally Posted by Joed

Remember guys, SRP is an international forum of straight razor shavers. Neither GSSIXGUN, myself or even Lynn have conjured up our honing methods on our own. Our methods have been tested by many of our 30,000 world wide members of straight razor shavers of many walks and talents.

That is the most important point I have seen yet Thank You Joe

"Guns, bottles, knives, chairs or fists ?"

The thing I am curious about in regards to Murray's videos is:

If he's been shaving for 19 years, then why was that Lou gentleman's face bleeding out of multiple cuts? I understand he shaved him with implements other than razors but I think most of the bleeders were caused by his use of the razor.

All I have to say is, no one teach me how to hone a knife or a razor, and when I was learning, I didn't have access to youtube or internet, or even stones higher than 400grit (knife). And I did some of his mistakes, I found out the hard way that they were wrong, and changed them, because the result wasn't good enough with the specific sharpening or honing method. No matter what he says, I don't think this person has any experience with honing, that's why he makes those mistakes. If he continues to hone he will find out eventually why everyone here says what he is doing is wrong. Till then, I don't think anyone can change his opinion that his method is the absolutely best way possible to hone an edged tool no matter what everybody else says.

Originally Posted by TwistedOak

The thing I am curious about in regards to Murray's videos is:

If he's been shaving for 19 years, then why was that Lou gentleman's face bleeding out of multiple cuts? I understand he shaved him with implements other than razors but I think most of the bleeders were caused by his use of the razor.

Well, shaving somebody else isn't quite the same as shaving oneself. Plus even Lynn gives himself a nick on his shaving demo video, and at that point he'd been doing it for decades. Things like these happen to everybody, I think I get a tiny nick once every 6 months or so, but I still consider myself competent straight razor shaver to the extent that this is the only way I shave (because it gives me the most comfortable shave I can get).

As far as the free course, I'm sure over three days one can learn a lot of bladesmithing from Mr. Carter, but there are much simpler ways to compare the end result of honing a razor, if learning is the objective here. Just mail few honed razors back and forth and it's done.
In fact I'd be more than happy to provide a pair of nice straight razors to each of them (vintage but appear to never have been honed post factory), so that it's the same razors just honed differently.