Thread: I'm not sure what to say about this.

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Keep in mind that this discussion is about honing Straight Razors, I think if we all keep that in mind there shouldn't be any more problems....

Originally Posted by gssixgun

We are opening this back up...

Keep in mind that this discussion is about honing Straight Razors, I think if we all keep that in mind there shouldn't be any more problems....

cool.... look.. you are one of the most respected honemeisters here... what is YOUR opinion about what is being done in this video??

i have watched your kamisori honing video and there is "backward" honing being done on one side of the blade....

i actually did the "drag the blade through a piece of wood to remove the wire edge" last night honing up my homemade 12/8ths fixed blade monster.... then i hit it a few more licks on the c12k then pasted strop and leather.....

it gave me a nice smooth shave....

Originally Posted by paco664

cool.... look.. you are one of the most respected honemeisters here... Thank you what is YOUR opinion about what is being done in this video?? I posted my opinion along with Undream/Brad's on the Carter You-tube channel it was pulled along with all but one of Brad's, which was a challenge to make vids.

I think looking at Brad's channel and my channel will find quite a few vids least last time I checked...

Originally Posted by gssixgun

I think looking at Brad's channel and my channel will find quite a few vids least last time I checked...

The chair recognizes the esteemed gentlemen from Switzerland...

Well I just watched the infamous "spoon" video that I'd read so much about on this site.

Is it juvenile for me to say that I was pretty damn impressed? Because I was. Maybe I like cheap carnival tricks; I've never been considered high-brow.

Who knows, maybe this guy has skin made of stiff leather, but take a look at his technique with the kamisori--and yes, the spoon, too. he's not a newbie...anyone who's done this a while can see he's clearly shaved with a straight more than a few times. He doesn't have the uncertain hands of a newbie.

So, my thinking is either he's sent his razor(s) out to a professional razor honer (which seems highly unlikely to me since he appears to be someone with a great deal of pride in his self-sufficiency) or he's sharpened his own. I for one appreciate his taking the time to add to the "pot of knowledge," even if his methods go ATG. A guy once by the name of Galileo had some methods that were ATG at one point, too. And that "grain" was much more certain at the time than ours now of honing razor blades. Everyone KNEW that the sun revolved around the earth. They knew it for a very long period of time. Turns out it don't.

Trust me, I'm not drawing any parallels between this guy and Galileo, I'm just saying that I'm hesitant to jump on the bandwagon of labeling him a heretic.

If I had those particular stones I might try this out just for Ss and Gs. Sadly I don't. Anyone got the stones to do it? p.s. awesome pun, right?!

I could shave myself with a 1k edge without problems in a video. The watcher doesn't feel anything, he only sees that the stubble is removed. If something can be done, doesn't mean it is comfortable too.

Originally Posted by jeness

I could shave myself with a 1k edge without problems in a video. The watcher doesn't feel anything, he only sees that the stubble is removed. If something can be done, doesn't mean it is comfortable too.

This is very true, and you make a good point. I hadn't considered the notion of him silently dealing with the pain for video purposes.

But still, in my opinion that doesn't fully explain his non-newbness. The comfort level with a blade he shows in his video takes what...at least 100 shaves easy, right? I don't think you can develop that comfort level shaving that many times with a 1K edge. Wouldn't you have visible scar tissue?

He is obviously used to shaving with a straight. I don't think you could shave with a spoon (even if it's not a "real" spoon and was made for the sole purpose of the video as he points out in it), knife, or axe without being comfortable with sharp steel near your jugular. However, I can shave with a dull blade. Granted, I'm a puss so I would probably wince too much on camera. One of my razors is starting to pull but I can shave with it. It's not comfortable but it's not the effortless glide I've become accustomed to. However it is still mildly sharper than my first razor was after my first time stropping and rolling an edge.I shaved with that every day for two months before I got another razor that truly was shave ready. As is, with my DE I can get 6 shaves out of each blade but anything after the third shave requires pressure, too much effort, and a willingness that I don't have to put up with discomfort.
I've only got a few honings under my belt so maybe I'll try my hand at his method to see what happens as I don't have tons of experience NOT doing what he does. That he is shaving with it is without question but to me it appears that it's not a comfortable shave or as close a shave as most of us here like.