Thread: Combat Knives?

Well gents I've run into a bit of a snag with my BK14. I normally wear it just behind my hip via a TDI belt clip. This works great for when I'm in street clothes, and working at the airport, but it leads to a problem when I work my retail job. There I have to wear shirt, tie and slacks everyday so it isn't practical to carry it on my waist. How do y'all suggest I carry it? I'd rather not be without it, our store is plagued with shoplifters that have been known to be violent and the management has admitted that corporate has deemed it fit that our only security should be working another male teenager and myself during the busy times.

IMO a knife is the wrong weapon for you to be using as a security man in a store. Trust me, I have done security work so I know a little about what I am talking about.

Think about it, are you really prepared to get into a knife fight with a shop lifter, in the middle of the store where you work, over a stolen pair of jeans? Two outcomes - He wins, and you are stabbed and cut up. Or you win, and you are now standing over a screaming, bleeding shoplifter, with a BK14 in you hand and blood all over your uniform. Have fun in court. Hey, the store got the jeans back.

Leave the knife at home. If you really think you need to be armed get a telescopic baton, but you better make sure you clear it with management first, if only to legally cover yourself if you ever have to use it. And get it in writing, or the day you have to use it on some junky, and he then tries to sue you (which he will) your employer will drop you like a hot potato and cover their own butt.

Originally Posted by Legion

IMO a knife is the wrong weapon for you to be using as a security man in a store. Trust me, I have done security work so I know a little about what I am talking about.

Think about it, are you really prepared to get into a knife fight with a shop lifter, in the middle of the store where you work, over a stolen pair of jeans? Two outcomes - He wins, and you are stabbed and cut up. Or you win, and you are now standing over a screaming, bleeding shoplifter, with a BK14 in you hand and blood all over your uniform. Have fun in court. Hey, the store got the jeans back.

Leave the knife at home. If you really think you need to be armed get a telescopic baton, but you better make sure you clear it with management first, if only to legally cover yourself if you ever have to use it. And get it in writing, or the day you have to use it on some junky, and he then tries to sue you (which he will) your employer will drop you like a hot potato and cover their own butt.

AHHHH YEAH- Ive been both security guard,and law enforcement,security guards with knives (over here at least ) will most probably be coming with the arresting officer,If you are qualified to be armed it will be with a firearm,and you will be properly trained when to use it.Hell a clean shoot will give you enough grief,as you will be investigated anyway,then you ll be exonerated,hopefully

I'm with legion on that score. Having once been in the security industry for 15 years, a telescopic baton does wonders for attitude adjustments. It's like the pump action shotgun of the soft weapon world IMHO. Other than that, get a gun.


Mick

Legion I see your point, but there are a few problems. The first is I'm not security, I'm a run of the mill salesmen that gets called when they come in. Two I have been confronted by groups of these same people on two different occasions; once I was saved by a mower blade (6 tried to jump me in shop class) and the second time outside a gas station and they stopped when I pulled a corn knife out of my car. Three I'm 18 and it's illegal to carry a gun in the state I live in. The knife would only be drawn as a last resort, if drawn it would be used more as a deterrent of violence on their part, only as a weapon if all other options are closed.

Originally Posted by MickR

I'm with legion on that score. Having once been in the security industry for 15 years, a telescopic baton does wonders for attitude adjustments. It's like the pump action shotgun of the soft weapon world IMHO. Other than that, get a gun.


Mick

I agree,the baton is the better option,although,in the old days a sap worked wonders,you know what they are dont you?

Originally Posted by Grizzley1

I agree,the baton is the better option,although,in the old days a sap worked wonders,you know what they are dont you?

Sure do.

Not quite as convincing as the old black jacks......but work quite well dont they?
Come to think of it ,its just lead in another form...the wonder material. lol

Ever see the old sailor favourite, the monkey fist slung shot? I shouldn't go into too much detail about the construction here, probably not appropriate, but it is basically a big lead sinker wrapped in a monkey fist knot. They'll take someone's mind off sex for a few minutes, too.

Well being a boy from the bush, I was kind of partial to what we called a Snake whip. A short (depends on preference, but 4' is compact and useful in length) flexible whip with the handle inners being made in various ways, but if you think of a cosh that has been plaited (braided) over and has 3.5' of whip hanging off the narrow end you'll get the idea. These things roll up nicely and sit just fine in a coat pocket or just tied round the waist with a quick release knot as a belt. Handy for keeping a little space between yourself and a thug as a whip and can be quickly reversed to belt them on the noggin with the handle. Has quite a calming effect. Might have to make myself one in the near future. Haven't thought of these in years.


Mick