Thread: Combat Knives?

Here's a prediction for you Mick. I'll bet you a beer that within the next five years straight razors are banned in at least one state in Australia.

I've watched it happen with everything else. All we need is one D!#$head kid to do something dumb, and that will be all the excuse they need. All the illegal "weapons" that I have owned were bought legally. Then they changed the laws and said I had to give them away. I know my razor collection is in their sights.

No bet Legion. I know that will be close to a losing bet. I have multitudes of stuff that is going to make me a criminal once they ban the ownership...All of it bought or made well within, the constraints of the law...In fact I have learnt just yesterday, in a second reply from the powers that be, that I already do own some knives that the laws have changed about. So in theory I have already been made a criminal by dint of ownership. Apparently it doesn't matter what sort of a folding knife it is, if you can open it one handed, it falls under the prohibited weapons act. This is the most recent change to the law nationwide I believe. I have a couple like that and an old one that became like that with use...All are outlawed. My collection will one day be dwindled to nothing as more and more restrictions are put in place over the coming years. We will all be sitting around in government issued and authorised cotton wool very soon.


Mick

Yep, that is all correct. And to a muppet from customs, what is a straight razor but a folding knife which can be opened with one hand. This means that technically any Australian who buys himself a razor from overseas is breaking the law, and if they wanted to, customs could seize and destroy it.

And don't think that they won't bend the rules to suit themselves. I once had a commando dagger taken. When I pointed out to them that daggers were ( at that time) legal in the state where I lived, they changed the form and said it was a push dagger, which was illegal.

Sound like you guys have your work cut out for you (no pun intended) but there must be a way to get the public that thinks like you guys stirred up. I'm sure that there are a lot of people who had some priceless Colts and other irreplaceable arms taken and are still pissed off. I don't know how your representatives are elected but work the system,and get some heat on them. Why do you think Rats run away from light? because then people can see them for what they are. Here we have different laws in different states,so to some degree you can vote with your feet (that was the intention of our constitution) and people are slowly waking up and there losing the spots in the government,and there's no time like the present. Ive asked lawyers and judges here in N.Y. why switchblades are illegal and not one can give an answer,they were covered under the Sullivan act back in the 30s and it was just because they looked scary,no kidding, but we can use the Internet and forums like this to get the word out that people are supposed to be FREE,with as little interference from the Feds as possible. lets hope we can keep up the fight.
One last thing you might find funny,once I had to go through a metal detector, the wand type,and I took the stuff out of my pockets and let him have at it,but...he didn't notice the Beretta under my wallet or the knife with my keys. don't think there splitting atoms in there spare time.
Keep fighting
Griz

I had a similar experience when I was coming back to my home state after living on the other side of the country for two years. I went through the airport metal detector after taking off the jacket, belt etc. and when I get my gear back the security bloke is holding up my jacket and asking me what I have in the inside pocket. Well it had me buggered what I had in there, but I had to reach in and pull it out. When I reached in and felt what it was I thought for sure I would be ding a 10-15 year stint in prison. The last time I had worn the jacket was on a cool morning up the back paddock of the property I was working on and shooting rabbits. I had put my (outlawed in that state at the time, and, for sometime now, nationwide) butterfly knife in my pocket and had forgotten all about it, no doubt due to the fact that I usually always had a skinning knife on my belt anyway.
Well the bloke said to me, "Mate whaddaya call that?" and I put on my best dumb country hick face and said, "Bugger me! I was wonderin' what happened to that! That's me hay bail cutter fer cuttin the bailin' twine orf ta feed the cows." It must have worked 'cause the bloke said to me he would have to put in in a security bag and I couldn't have it with me on the plane. And of course I thanked the bloke and said that I'm glad he would do that, as it was a good ol' knife that had served me well, and that I'd hate to have ta chuck it in the bin...Don't know what ever happened to that knife now, but I had it handed back to me at the end of the plane trip and had it for a while after that, that I can recall...


Mick

I had a house burglary many years ago. Along with all my other valuables the thief took a whole bunch of weapons. Long story short, the guy had broken out of prison a day or two before robbing my house, and several others, so the cops spent more than the usual effort to find him. When they did, they found him holed up in an Aladdin's cave of stolen property. So I get a call to go down to the police station and identify and collect my belongings.

The detective in charge said to me "there is your TV, CD's, cameras... and these," he says, tipping a bag of illegal weapons onto the table "these aren't yours, are they?" Sheepishly I reply "Errr, no?" "Didn't think so." he says, and scoops the whole lot into a trash bin.

I suppose I should be thankful he didn't throw the book at me, but I think they were just happy to have that crim off the streets. As I was leaving he pick one item out of the bin. "Gee I wish he had come at us with this..."

You should have said "No, but I'm happy to take them anyway."

I had a similar drama with a legally owned and licenced rifle. I obliged the police by removing it from a house I was staying in where a domestic dispute had occurred between the owners of the place. The copper told me that I would be able to collect it the next day. He didn't tell me it would take all day for them to jerk me around in some vain attempt at getting me to walk out in disgust. I went in to collect it at 9AM, and said to the desk cop that I was told to come and pick it up. He said, "Who said you could have it?!" in his best, blunt, this is not really a question, tone of voice. When I told him, he told me to wait while he sorted it out. I spotted him every so often peeking out at me with a big grin on his stupid face and caught a glimpse of the coffee cup occasionally. Watched him walk across the back area with his lunch in hand, then back again with a satisfied look on his face an hour later. Friendly mob them WA coppers. I got it back at 4.30PM with a brusque, "Sign here and here!" and real sour look on the blokes face when I just signed and smiled and said, "Thanks mate, you have a good day." It was worth it for the look he gave me, even though I just wanted to rip his throat out.
That rifle went in the ban of '96...


Mick

Mick,
Asian and Australian Knife Community

Here is a link to the austrailian section of blade forums , don't know if your interested in grousing with your compatriots but perhaps the lot of you could put together some sort of a petition , though i have yet to travel to your beautiful country I imagin a lot of folks are more then knife friendly.

Take back freedom.

I've got a seminar story and an update for yall. I got my BK14 on tuesday and headed to Columbia MO for the freshman seminar. I've been carrying it at about 4 o'clock just behind my hip tucked in the waist band by the belt clip. Well I was walking around around 10 pm and all of a sudden I see flashing lights, so I stopped and turned to see a MUPD (Mizzou is around 36,000 students and has it own police department not just security) officer jumping out of the car hand on his gun telling me to stop and keep my hands visible. Im scared and confused as hell, he turned me around walked me over to his car pulled the knife out of the sheath, and the folder clipped off of my pocket. Soon as he had the knives he told me to turn around and asked me what I was doing carrying around a illegal knife, I was once again confuse as can be having double checked both state and school policies. He told me that carrying a fixed blade knife concealed is illegal. I told him I was sorry but was pretty sure it was legal if the blade was under 4". apparently he was in a good mood because of cuffing me he took out his phone and called the station and asked, sure enough I was right. He gave me back my knives, told me he was sorry for wasting my time and gave me a ride across campus to the dorms.

Originally Posted by Devilpup

I've got a seminar story and an update for yall. I got my BK14 on tuesday and headed to Columbia MO for the freshman seminar. I've been carrying it at about 4 o'clock just behind my hip tucked in the waist band by the belt clip. Well I was walking around around 10 pm and all of a sudden I see flashing lights, so I stopped and turned to see a MUPD (Mizzou is around 36,000 students and has it own police department not just security) officer jumping out of the car hand on his gun telling me to stop and keep my hands visible. Im scared and confused as hell, he turned me around walked me over to his car pulled the knife out of the sheath, and the folder clipped off of my pocket. Soon as he had the knives he told me to turn around and asked me what I was doing carrying around a illegal knife, I was once again confuse as can be having double checked both state and school policies. He told me that carrying a fixed blade knife concealed is illegal. I told him I was sorry but was pretty sure it was legal if the blade was under 4". apparently he was in a good mood because of cuffing me he took out his phone and called the station and asked, sure enough I was right. He gave me back my knives, told me he was sorry for wasting my time and gave me a ride across campus to the dorms.

Don't you love it. Our country is turning in to the presumed guilty type of place. Heck, a few states already have laws on the books to make it illegal to film LEO's on duty, performing arrests, etc. I give it another ten years before I'm ready to move to BFE, buy 200 acres and go off the grid.