Thread: Combat Knives?

Originally Posted by MickR

I've just finished reading a proposed banned import 'weapons' list to be implemented nationwide in Australia. If it isn't a knife used in a kitchen or butcher shop it is pretty much on the banned list. What a sad little country I live in. I am ashamed to live here. I just wrote to customs to voice my disgust at what they are doing, but that will amount to very little, as they are only interested in hearing from people to help them fine tune and tweak their banned list.


Mick

one can argue that any knife can be used in the kitchen or butcher shop.

Lol its how i get way with having alot of them.... But honey we need a big knife for the Sunday roast! This Ka-Bar will be perfect for it!

[QUOTE=MickR;804824]I've just finished reading a proposed banned import 'weapons' list to be implemented nationwide in Australia. If it isn't a knife used in a kitchen or butcher shop it is pretty much on the banned list. What a sad little country I live in. I am ashamed to live here. I just wrote to customs to voice my disgust at what they are doing, but that will amount to very little, as they are only interested in hearing from people to help them fine tune and tweak their banned list.


Mick[/QUOTE

While doing some gun control research for a paper, I think I read somewhere that Australia spent around 300 million in the last firearm ban to collect and destroy "weapons"...the response a 300-400% increase in violent crime in Victoria. I not be remembering it right but this sounds like the same deal. Tell you what collect you knives and dogs and you can stay in my dorm till you fine a new place here in the US.

Originally Posted by basil

one can argue that any knife can be used in the kitchen or butcher shop.

Lol its how i get way with having alot of them.... But honey we need a big knife for the Sunday roast! This Ka-Bar will be perfect for it!

One can argue till one is blue in the face in this country. If the politicians have decided it's 'for our own good' it is hard to shift them...Mind you though, many Australians don't try too hard to prevent banning of our freedoms, because it isn't shown in that light. Instead the proposed items to be banned are vilified in the media first, then once the minds of the...I won't say 'sheeple'...population are conditioned to accept that, a ban or a law is passed without much fight.

Originally Posted by Devilpup

While doing some gun control research for a paper, I think I read somewhere that Australia spent around 300 million in the last firearm ban to collect and destroy "weapons"...the response a 300-400% increase in violent crime in Victoria. I not be remembering it right but this sounds like the same deal. Tell you what collect you knives and dogs and you can stay in my dorm till you fine a new place here in the US.

I believe those figures are close to correct. Crime rate soared over much of the nation once the honest population had handed over the banned rifles/shotguns in 1996. And a good many of the firearms used in the gun related crimes were items that had been handed in to police. It would seem that the nations police forces had been making a little profit on the side...Or at least some corrupt individual embers of the police force were anyway. Police are also the main problem when it comes to handgun theft. It seems criminals like to target police stations for them. Little of this is actually reported by mainstream media. Of late here in Queensland, armed robberies have been prolific (or at least back in fashion with the media reports). If it involves a pistol or a knife it is headline news. The last disarming of the population focused only on semi-auto rifles and pump action shotguns. It looks like the next focus is to be pistols and knives. Round two has finally come about and the laws have already been passed sometime back with little notice to the people of the country. The proposed amendments were buried on a government site for a one day, before the powers that be had decided that was long enough, and went ahead with the changes. Great country we live in here, where the people aren't trusted by the government and the people are all ok with that, and blindly accept what they're told.

End of Rant.


Mick

Originally Posted by MickR

I've just finished reading a proposed banned import 'weapons' list to be implemented nationwide in Australia. If it isn't a knife used in a kitchen or butcher shop it is pretty much on the banned list. What a sad little country I live in. I am ashamed to live here. I just wrote to customs to voice my disgust at what they are doing, but that will amount to very little, as they are only interested in hearing from people to help them fine tune and tweak their banned list.Mick-
Mick

It looks like time has picked you to start some type of message to send to your friends and family,and have them keep it going -and send it to your representatives,its time for all of us to stop laying down and taking it without speaking up.The time is NOW !
Griz

Originally Posted by Grizzley1

It looks like time has picked you to start some type of message to send to your friends and family,and have them keep it going -and send it to your representatives,its time for all of us to stop laying down and taking it without speaking up.The time is NOW !
Griz

What a sad state your country is in.. First guns(how did that improve your crime rate?), now knives.... soon you will be left with sporks and rocks... tire irons and baseball bats also must go!!!
What will they do when people get killed with a rock? Pulverize to sand?
Sorry I'm not making fun of you but I find it sad that liberal propaganda can have such an effect. It has happened throughout history and these countries soon saw horrible atrocities in the name of law and government. It's happening here also.. Not giving up my knives and guns!!!!!

Originally Posted by Grizzley1

It looks like time has picked you to start some type of message to send to your friends and family,and have them keep it going -and send it to your representatives,its time for all of us to stop laying down and taking it without speaking up.The time is NOW !
Griz

Already done mate. I have replied to their reply, voicing my concern, as the first email sent back to me did little to appease my concern regarding the proposed bans. The first reply was just a brush off really. And in my opinion was treating me like an un-knife-educated idiot. The bans don't solely relate to knives, they incorporate other items in the list as well. Some sensible, most not though.

Originally Posted by Str8Shooter

What a sad state your country is in.. First guns(how did that improve your crime rate?), now knives.... soon you will be left with sporks and rocks... tire irons and baseball bats also must go!!!
What will they do when people get killed with a rock? Pulverize to sand?
Sorry I'm not making fun of you but I find it sad that liberal propaganda can have such an effect. It has happened throughout history and these countries soon saw horrible atrocities in the name of law and government. It's happening here also.. Not giving up my knives and guns!!!!!

Don't be sorry mate. I'm afraid that is the direction we are heading in. I had a laugh at your use of the word 'sporks'...Quite apt.


Mick

I think most of us remember always having some sort of pocket knife in school and teachers asking if they could borrow it . Being 4- 5 years old and dad giving you a boy scout knife , my instructions were "don't cut yourself too badly squirt" .
When exactly did knives of any sort become dangerous ? When did they lose the designation as a tool that every man and boy should have?was it when they started to label everything tactical ?
I honestly don't know.
Before the world expo last year china didn't really care much what you had or carried untill a few crazies walked into schools and killed children result was a city wide ban on knives in shanghai during the lead up to the expo . I mean you couldnt even buy a pairing knife in a grocery store.

Someone mentioned about kabars in the kitchen , sure why not, most of the knife related crime here is related to kitchen and fruit knifes not camping / combat knives.

Laws in America are so convoluted no one really knows what is legal, is it legal to carry a folder how about a folder with assisted opening or how about a fixed blade under your shirt? Are these concealed ? .
In japan you get time in jail for having over 2 in . In fact being a foreigner In japan don't carry. A comon first response from a japanese cop when asked for assistance by a foreigner is ... Are you carrying a knife. What the .... Ten days in jail.

When did a tool become so feard ? What i use my knives for .

Opening boxes
Cleaning fingernails
Cutting wire
Cutting wood
Carving
A screwdriver
Pry bar
Wedge
Cutting food for my son
Cleaning gutters
Ruling empires
Etc.

You forgot to mention digging out splinters Shayne.

In my travels around the US, I thought it was great that I could go into a Wal-mart and pick up an Old Timer pocket knife for next to nothing. They would have cost me 10 times what I paid in the US, here in Australia. Anyway I bought a Puma and several OT's as gifts and also got myself a couple as well. I carried this OT 'Bear-claw' lock knife in my bum bag that held all my important documents, passport etc. I was in a shop in New Orleans and the shop assistant asked me if I had a pocketknife on me to cut some poly twine around a package he had on the counter. I said, "yeah sure", and handed over my lock knife. The bloke said, "Buddy, you better keep that one out of sight in future, you could get arrested for having that on you." Well that's no different here but I was surprised as you can buy it legally, but you can't carry it legally on you. Seems quite silly, no matter the country. So long as it is being used legitimately, where is the problem?! I was also searched before going into Disneyland or Disney world or whatever it's called...The one that isn't in Florida anyway. And it wasn't 'til I was in and waiting for my wife and fellow tourists to pass security that I realised the security check failed to pick up that bloody knife in my bag that I had forgotten was there. Lucky for me I suppose.
Then there was the visit to Lake Powell power station, an english tourist was refused entry into the place because he had what amounted to a pair of fingernail clippers in his pocket. I should also say that this trip was only months after the US terrorist attack, but still...Fingernail clippers! But what clown carries fingernail clippers anyway?!...Any man who has them in his pocket must be a little bit dodgy anyway hey..;D


Mick

Originally Posted by MickR

I was surprised as you can buy it legally, but you can't carry it legally on you. Seems quite silly, no matter the country.
Mick

Makes perfect sense if you think like a politician. Give people the means to break the law and then fine them when they do. The sheeple won't object if you have to pay a huge fine because you have something sharp in your pocket. But even suggest increasing tax and the sheeple will revolt.

Just keep fighting the good fight...youll be suprised when others join you.
Griz