Thread: Coffee Enthusiasts

Originally Posted by Dieseld

Good morning and some great coffee

Once the water fully enters the top how long do you let keep it there before shuting off the heat to vacuum back to the bottom?

Originally Posted by paco

Once the water fully enters the top how long do you let keep it there before shuting off the heat to vacuum back to the bottom?

About a minute or two. Actually when enough boils to the top, the vacuum is broken and it begins to drain back down

Originally Posted by JHBBlade

I've had a lot of success freezing my beans, but there are some important caveats to freezing beans.

Firstly make sure the beans are freezed in an air tight container. A freezer is a very dry environment.

Secondly I find I need to grind frozen beans while still frozen. So each day I quickly weigh off what I need, then immediately return the container of beans to the freezer. And grind immediately.

If I allow the beans to defrost before grinding I find the flavour is not as good, and if the beans wait for say a day after defrosting then the flavour is worse.

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I don't find that there is a problem freezing beans as long as you keel them vacuum sealed during freezing and defrosting. The problem with freezing is usually over the moisture that condensation brings to the party. I'm the only coffee drinker in the house so I have to make an attempt to keep beans a little longer. 1 kilo of beans takes me a while to consume. I divide it in thirds and freeze the vacuum sealed bags.

What you should do is get a basic roaster and your problem is solved. You roast as needed.

Actually if you use a vacuum sealer like a food saver you should not have to freeze them. They will keep a very long time.

Originally Posted by thebigspendur

What you should do is get a basic roaster and your problem is solved. You roast as needed.

Actually if you use a vacuum sealer like a food saver you should not have to freeze them. They will keep a very long time.

Yeah, I think we've discussed this before. Being the only coffee drinker it's a little tough to justify. Maybe I will at some point. I'm always tinkering with something new in the kitchen. Maybe coffe roasting is next.

Originally Posted by OCDshaver

Yeah, I think we've discussed this before. Being the only coffee drinker it's a little tough to justify. Maybe I will at some point. I'm always tinkering with something new in the kitchen. Maybe coffe roasting is next.

If you want to try coffee roasting without making your S.O. mad at you for shelling out big bucks, certain air popcorn poppers that have been modified work very well for coffee roasting. You have to disconnect, or at least relocate the thermostat, so you can get a high enough temp to fully roast the beans.

They are occasionally at the thrift, or Goodwill stores brand new for 5 bucks or so. I wanted to save to buy a roaster until someone showed me these. I don't have an expensive one to compare to, but these have always worked great for me.

I have an extra one I can send you for free if you want. I'll even put a some green Sumatra beans in the box for you to accidentally burn your first time.

I'm not a big fan of Sumatra after trying it recently, but it's all I have until it runs out.

So.......let me know.

You'll hate other coffee once you start doing your own. Especially when you buy some quality beans to roast in there.

Originally Posted by OCDshaver

Yeah, I think we've discussed this before. Being the only coffee drinker it's a little tough to justify. Maybe I will at some point. I'm always tinkering with something new in the kitchen. Maybe coffe roasting is next.

I agree with jwtruth45, and also have this suggestion. I repurposed a bread maker by bypassing the heat element and reposition the thermostat outside of the machine to detect only the ambient air as to not shut the machine down due to overheating. In other words machine is only used to agitate the beans while the heat source is a heat gun held buy the lid or holder in top.
Here is a video of process if interested:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23AJYJCvI1I

Originally Posted by OCDshaver

I don't find that there is a problem freezing beans as long as you keel them vacuum sealed during freezing and defrosting. The problem with freezing is usually over the moisture that condensation brings to the party. I'm the only coffee drinker in the house so I have to make an attempt to keep beans a little longer. 1 kilo of beans takes me a while to consume. I divide it in thirds and freeze the vacuum sealed bags.

This is MY opinion and not a disagreement with anyone.
First off I am speaking of those who roast their own beans.
If your roasting and only do enough for a week or two I have experienced no reason to either freeze or vacuum seal the beans, an airtight has always been satisfactory for me because I use the beans before they degrade in taste.

@OCDShaver......... That's good to hear. I freeze coffee in clip lock tubs.

Maybe I should qualify what my experience is with defrosting. Yes, I agree the defrosting must take place in the sealed container, otherwise condensation is a problem. Once defrosted I find the flavour is okay, but I found it deteriorates faster than I'm used to with an unfrozen coffee. Sometimes faster than I can drink the beans. Hence my tendency to grind while frozen.

As an aside, there is some interesting work that Matt Perger did with frozen beans; basically he discovered that he gets a more even grind (narrower size distribution) with frozen beans and hence better tasting coffee.

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☺️.......... Great idea thebigspendur...... but I can see that roasting is a rabbit hole deeper than my shaving addictions!

..... to avoid me becoming thebigspendurNo.2 I'll stick to buying beans for now.

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