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    Quote Originally Posted by Arsenico View Post
    Hello. Nice finds.
    The first one it is wtitten ENGLAND STEEL、 特上 High Grade 登録 Trade Mark 井上藤助 kamisori. I can't see the this kanji (作) which stands for "made"
    The last 2 kanji might be the point, but they are very difficult to read, a closer pic might help.

    On the second kamisori it is only written "razor" or "laser" or "leather" レーザ. They have a similar pronunciation in japanese..
    So it is quite difficult to understand who is the maker.

    Hope this helps.
    Arsenico - any help you could give to translating the Kanji on these four pieces of ancient Tamahagane steel in the thread below, been trying to get a translation for awhile - much thanks if you can.

    There are four pieces of the nakago section of four different Japanese swords.

    http://straightrazorpalace.com/custo...ml#post1479572

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phrank View Post
    Arsenico - any help you could give to translating the Kanji on these four pieces of ancient Tamahagane steel in the thread below, been trying to get a translation for awhile - much thanks if you can.

    There are four pieces of the nakago section of four different Japanese swords.

    http://straightrazorpalace.com/custo...ml#post1479572
    Like post #8?
    "Don't be stubborn. You are missing out."
    I rest my case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharptonn View Post
    Like post #8?
    Saw that one, maybe he could help on the other pieces, even an age range of the Kanji would be helpful... have to ask....
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    Hello.
    First of all I forgot to write the reading of this 井上藤助, in post #27 but you should know these kanji now INOUE TOSUKE ...


    Quote Originally Posted by lz6 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sharptonn View Post
    So here we have the same group of kanji.
    The first strop has 3 more kanji, but basically the whole meaning is the same.
    Let's see them in detail
    The group of kanji in blue are the one on lz6's strop and not on sharptonn's one

    耐水研磨仕上 検定所 検査済

    耐水 (TAISUI) water resistant, waterproof
    研磨 (KENMA) grinding, polishing
    仕上 (SHIAGE) finishing, final touch
    検定所 (KENTEIJO) inspection centre, official certification centre
    検査済 (KENSAZUMI) test finished, final inspection

    So trying to give a meaning to all of this:
    Finishing strop, water resistant, approved by an official inspection center (or something like that..)

    Hope this helps.

    I also wanted to thank you all for the kind words.
    And again, it is my pleasure to help. This is a big chance to learn something new also for me!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phrank View Post
    Arsenico - any help you could give to translating the Kanji on these four pieces of ancient Tamahagane steel in the thread below, been trying to get a translation for awhile - much thanks if you can.

    There are four pieces of the nakago section of four different Japanese swords.

    http://straightrazorpalace.com/custo...ml#post1479572
    Reading those kanji has been difficult also for some of my japanese friends.
    But I have something interesting for you:

    Quote Originally Posted by Bruno View Post
    This is the name of a sword maker of the 1600. Hata Mitsuyo 秦光代。Some informations are available googling his name. There is also something on google books

    Hope this helps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arsenico View Post
    Reading those kanji has been difficult also for some of my japanese friends.
    But I have something interesting for you:



    This is the name of a sword maker of the 1600. Hata Mitsuyo 秦光代。Some informations are available googling his name. There is also something on google books

    Hope this helps.
    Of the 1600's, so the that piece of tamahagane steel is over 400 years old! Amazing, truly amazing.

    Thank-you!

    Yes, so this is the guy then, Hata Mitsuyo, and, "he originally came from Mino province but moved later to Nagoya whereas he had studied in Edo under the Edo-Ishido master Tsushima no Kami Tsunemitsu. From him we know dated signatures from the second year of Kanbun (1662) until the Jokyo era (1684-1688)."

    The last three symbols of the Kanji are identical to Kanji in pic #3 from Bruno's post, here is a pic of Hata Mitsuyo's work and his signature on another piece (link added):

    http://nihonto.us/HATA%20MITSUYO%20KATANA.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phrank View Post
    Of the 1600's, so the that piece of tamahagane steel is over 400 years old! Amazing, truly amazing.
    Actually it should be the second half of the 1600

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    ooops you already wrote it, sorry...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arsenico View Post
    Actually it should be the second half of the 1600

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    ooops you already wrote it, sorry...
    Thank-you very much for the information, I appreciate it, and it's great you posted the clip here, fascinating really. 400 years old, makes my Wade and Butcher's look like kids....
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    Quote Originally Posted by sharptonn View Post
    Like post #8?
    See, never hurts to ask....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phrank View Post
    See, never hurts to ask....
    I am sooooo lost!



    Thanks, Arsenico!
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    "Don't be stubborn. You are missing out."
    I rest my case.

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