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    I've never met a Helen I didn't like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy77 View Post
    I've never met a Helen I didn't like.
    A HELJE I didn't like!! Darn autocorrect.

    Though Helens tend to be nice people for some reason...
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    Quote Originally Posted by doc47 View Post
    "The business was converted into a Limited Liability Company – under the name of AB C.V. Heljestrand, on the 9th of October 1907. The subscription for shares started on the 1st of January 1908. In 1963 the company was moved to Årjäng in Värmland, close to the Norwegian border, due to an increase in production and to keep costs down. The majority of the masters and machine experts also decided to move with the company to the new location. But the fine metalwork was still made in Eskilstuna for production and technical reasons. The company went bankrupt in the autumn of 1979. In 2009 it was bought by SMP+Cardio."
    From the company's records sited abovewe see no indication of a "French-Connection". Was Kinda a major stock holder? I can't explain the statement on the Kindal website, but the CVH Company never mentions it. That seems very strange to me. Grain of salt time...
    The company reports these directors for the specified period of time. Still no Kindal mentioned:

    Company Director
    1 - Johan Olof Heljestrand 1781-1837 (56 yrs) Director from 1808-1837 (Founder of the company)
    2 - Nils Fredrik Heljestrand (son of Olof) 1808-1868 (60 yrs) Director from 1837-1846 (director at the age of 29)
    3 - Carl Viktor Heljestrand (son of Olof) 1819-1861 (42 yrs) Director from 1846-1861 (director at the age of 27)
    4 - Johan Christoffer Heljestrand (son of Olof) 1818-1882 (64 yrs) Director from 1861-1882 (director at the age of 43)
    5 - Otto Bernhard Heljestrand (son of Olof) 1824-1902 (78 yrs) Director from 1883-1902 (director at the age of 59)
    6 - Mats (Bernhard) Heljestrand (son of Bernhard) Director beginning 1902 (director at the age of 59)
    check post nr. 5. after 1908 richard m. kindal was a director at heljestrand: Signification MK et BK sur les Heljestrand - Page 2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy77 View Post
    A HELJE I didn't like!! Darn autocorrect.

    Though Helens tend to be nice people for some reason...


    you know what.. you8 are actually right!!!... all Hellens i've known are actually nice !!! hahahahaha oh man.. you made my day hahahahaha
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    Guys.. all of this is really nice, but i want to know which of you is the one that's going to actually sell a nice MK31, and a MK33 in an incredibly great price... come on, really you have too many.. i have ony one.. and she's feeling lonely!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by brightred View Post
    check post nr. 5. after 1908 richard m. kindal was a director at heljestrand: Signification MK et BK sur les Heljestrand - Page 2

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    Hans, I don't disagree with Kindal being an agent, I am not finding anything in Sweden to confirm what is printed on the Kindal Website regarding ownership. Wouldn't you expect CVH in their company records to mention something as signifcant as a sale to Kindal? You must remember that CVH as a company was regarding by Sweden as a model Swedish Company; sort of a national treasure for a variety of reasons. CVHs sale would have drawn great interest and publicity in Sweden; yet not a word in the Swedish press. I'm not trying to be argumentative about this, it's just that nothing substantive from Sweden supports the French claims of ownership. I understand the close relationship between families and don't doubt that the Kindal family was the agent for CVH in France. All I'm saying is that the information and the sources offer contradicting information regarding many of the "absolutes" that have been presented through this thread. You may believe whatever sources you want, but I choose to remain skeptical and until someone shows me otherwise I shall remain a skeptic.

    It just dawned on me that having the sole distributorship in France for the sale of the CVH product could easily be viewed as a "purchase" because Kindal would have "owned" the right to sell this brand exclusively outside of Sweden.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gabrielcr78 View Post
    Guys.. all of this is really nice, but i want to know which of you is the one that's going to actually sell a nice MK31, and a MK33 in an incredibly great price... come on, really you have too many.. i have ony one.. and she's feeling lonely!!!
    I will be selling several of my CVH razors that are not numbered 30 or 31's that measure like 30s. So there will be 16's (a great rattler grind), 32 and 33 models and possible one or two full sized 31s. Be patient.
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    sure, now that Im took broke to buy razors, you start selling the good ones I dont have. Ha. Just my luck. I'll get me some sweeds some day. I aint giving up on this great way of shaving. And my day will come!
    Best of luck to you Dan on your up coming sale!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gasman View Post
    sure, now that Im took broke to buy razors, you start selling the good ones I dont have. Ha. Just my luck. I'll get me some sweeds some day. I aint giving up on this great way of shaving. And my day will come!
    Best of luck to you Dan on your up coming sale!
    For you my old friend I would create an installment plan so you could have what you want. Just ask.
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    Thats very kind of you Dan! I'll take one of each.
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