Thread: The Butchered Blade

Originally Posted by MikeB52

So collarless pinning puts greater stresses on the scale presumably for as I set the torpedo scales flush, the end split.
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Ok, try again with collars as maybe this material is softer when it's thinned out.
Luckily a rub with acetone removed the inlay again.
So here's the second iteration.
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Pinned up tight and ready for the stones.

Nice material. I think you need to taper the hole. I do but have not used collarless on such material either.

Originally Posted by RezDog

Nice material. I think you need to taper the hole. I do but have not used collarless on such material either.

Yes I believe your right.
But that's why I like to use a very small washer. It gives the illusion of a collarless pinning. Once you get the nack of how much rod to leave exposed
before pinning.

Originally Posted by cudarunner

Looks nice.

Somewhere I read about slightly 'countersinking' when pinning washerless. Never tried the washerless 'yet' but I hope someone with a lot of experience can help out.

I did countersink, as I have on previous builds successfully. Those were all in natural materials such as bone, wood, or horn. Think this plastics spread and then split as the pin swelled inside the hole..learned not to do that again in synthetic materials..

I think the "flush ness" of the completed collarless pins is what I find the most attractive about doing em that way. Any collar prevents that from happening. Key is to deeper countersink in the scale for sure, and choice of material.. This stuff is from mascraft and while it works for the aquatic theme I was going for, it's not stiff plastic compared to like a Bakelite.

Originally Posted by outback

Yes I believe your right.
But that's why I like to use a very small washer. It gives the illusion of a collarless pinning. Once you get the nack of how much rod to leave exposed
before pinning.

Hi Outback - that's a really small washer - did you make them yourself?

Originally Posted by UKRob

Hi Outback - that's a really small washer - did you make them yourself?

No I get them at Ace Hardware and a few other Hardware shops

Originally Posted by MikeB52

I think the "flush ness" of the completed collarless pins is what I find the most attractive about doing em that way. Any collar prevents that from happening. Key is to deeper countersink in the scale for sure, and choice of material.. This stuff is from mascraft and while it works for the aquatic theme I was going for, it's not stiff plastic compared to like a Bakelite.

But they are not supposed to be 'flush', Mike! The rounded peen should be created above the surface and eventually peened down to the surface where they sit a bit proud. Trying to get things flush with the scale seems a good way to break a scale. Like driving a wedge in! ? Here!

I defer to your razor experience of course Tom, and stand corrected.Guess I do em wrong.

But hey, I'm still new-ish to razor rebuilding. And this was my inspiration for collarless I guess. Flush as I can make em was the goal I thought.

Stopping the peening via the hammer when the dome is still so high off the scale would be safer, but I guess I just thought that was all part of the challenge and why presumably it was an indication of a higher standard, or quality of build,, back in the day..
Always learnin,,,

Originally Posted by MikeB52

So collarless pinning puts greater stresses on the scale presumably for as I set the torpedo scales flush, the end split.
Attachment 234093
Ok, try again with collars as maybe this material is softer when it's thinned out.
Luckily a rub with acetone removed the inlay again.
So here's the second iteration.
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Pinned up tight and ready for the stones.

That turned out gorgeous B52!!!!!

Originally Posted by engine46

That turned out gorgeous B52!!!!!

Thanks Steve. It's a nice, nimble smaller blade. I bought that material through mascraft as a gamble and wasn't sure it'd work out for scales, but like the effect quite a bit. Only had the one inlay but have a second torpedo blade I'm still going to skin in the same.. Hopefully I might find a trashed torpedo still in original skins to finish the matched effect one day.
Could be a nice weekend set in a small travel kit.