Thread: New Immigration bill is TREASON

"In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person's becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American. There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag. We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language. And we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people.
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Del

Several of the Americans I met when traveling in the US think of themselves first as Texans or Newyorkers or whatever, and second as Americans.

I visited during an Election year (don't know what for. Gouvernor or senator) and one of the main issues that several candidates repeatedly highlighted was that they would do their best to keep away 'Washington DC' so that their state could govern itself as much as possible.

Originally Posted by kimbal

"In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person's becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American. There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag. We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language. And we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people.
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Del

Thank you!! Theodore roosevelt is one of my heroes!!

JMS, glad you liked my posting. He put it in much better words than I could. He was a straight forward no nonsense kind of guy.
Bruno, I agree people from some areas claim that they identify with that area rather than the US as a whole. But I think it is common to pull together and put that aside when there is a natural disaster such as or a hurricane. Also events such as 9/11 pull the country together. With time people go back to their regular routines until an event occurs again.
Also many people distance themselves from Washington D.C. because they are sick of politicians promises when they campaign and there excuses once in office. This is just my opinion, others are welcome to disagree with me.
But far as me, I grew up with the feeling it was my patriotic duty to serve my country. My foster grandfather served in WW2 at the Battle of the Bulge. My foster dad's brother served 2 tours in Vietnam. I enlisted at age 18 and was trained as an armor crewman on M60A3 tanks. Served in 1/10 Cav(Ready and Forward), and also Delta Co. 3rd Battalion 34th Armor(Centurions). So it is natural I have a lot of pride in Old Glory. I proudly fly our flag on the side of my deck and consider my self an American first and foremost.
It is common to get caught up in our everyday lives and work routines. I do this also. Do you know where I get my reality check that refreshes me? About once a year I have an appointment at the Va Hospital. When I see the men with scarred faces, amputees and other various disabilties, it reminds how lucky I am to live where we are a free people. And that is because those combat veterans put the US first. HOOAAAH!!!!!
GW, sorry for hijacking your thread. Once in a great while I have to get on my soapbox. Now I'm done.

Originally Posted by Bruno

Several of the Americans I met when traveling in the US think of themselves first as Texans or Newyorkers or whatever, and second as Americans.

I visited during an Election year (don't know what for. Gouvernor or senator) and one of the main issues that several candidates repeatedly highlighted was that they would do their best to keep away 'Washington DC' so that their state could govern itself as much as possible.

Bruno --this is one of the nuance scenarios of American life ----you will hear poeple from the south, claim to be southern before Amercian, and maybe then Texan before southern, and then maybe even refine it even more ---- but this is usually in causual talk and expressed when times are good and non threatening. In times of need , believe me, we are all Americans --traditionally that is.

Justin

Originally Posted by Bruno

Several of the Americans I met when traveling in the US think of themselves first as Texans or Newyorkers or whatever, and second as Americans.

I visited during an Election year (don't know what for. Gouvernor or senator) and one of the main issues that several candidates repeatedly highlighted was that they would do their best to keep away 'Washington DC' so that their state could govern itself as much as possible.

Hey Bruno,
we in the USA are like brothers and sisters bickering and fighting among ourselves but when needed most we tend to all band together and take care of the business at hand!
Hell, I fought with my little sister all the time but beat the snot out of one kid for treating her poorly!

I won't speak for everyone in America but I believe my description fits the typical American!

Mark Avery

Originally Posted by JMS

Hey Bruno,
we in the USA are like brothers and sisters bickering and fighting among ourselves but when needed most we tend to all band together and take care of the business at hand!
Hell, I fought with my little sister all the time but beat the snot out of one kid for treating her poorly!

I won't speak for everyone in America but I believe my description fits the typical American!

Mark Avery

Yeah for sure-- for sure ---- typically I don't like Californians like Mark --- and if I could I would get him in headlock and give him a knucklehead ----- but ultimately I've got his back --- see that's kind of how it works (man I'm full of it)

Justin

Originally Posted by jaegerhund

Yeah for sure-- for sure ---- typically I don't like Californians like Mark --- and if I could I would get him in headlock and give him a knucklehead ----- but ultimately I've got his back --- see that's kind of how it works (man I'm full of it)

Justin

Hey!

You better watch it Justin or I'm coming down to Louisiana and kicking your a** all around the bayou!

Originally Posted by JMS

Hey!

You better watch it Justin or I'm coming down to Louisiana and kicking your a** all around the bayou!

And so it goes ----(but Mark we're being attacked by the Belgians --unite and give Bruno a red belly) .

Ok getting a little off topic so I'll stop.

Justin

First of all I guess you all know I came over from Scotland, where many of your ancestors did at some point...i did it with Legal Process tho...

Scarface, I can only begin to understand how frustrating this must be for you and your Wife and I wish you all the best in all your efforts.

My wife is from NC and she decided she would love to move to scotland once we were married. We then discussed moving back to the USA after 5 or so years....which we have done with our 2 year old son.

Now all through immigration I must say I got really nervous as there are no promises for success,but the outcome was good and we are here now and I have my greencard.
Now bearing this all in mind I often wonder how people see me,albeit Im legal, but Im not a US citizen yet...see what Im getting at.

The UK is facing problems of a similar nature with being part of the EU and are getting an influx of people who are allowed to move within the EU but they come over and seem to get all the Govt. handouts.(Id like to say at this time that IM in now way racially prejudiced, everyperson has a fair crack of the whip with me until he/she mproves otherwise).

At the end of the day Im not seeking to get my family over here and my case was pretty simple, but it still makes me wonder how difficult it would have been to move now.

I consider myself pretty lucky to be here and love this country, its people,history and the weather, i want to work and make a nice living for my family and give our son the best chances in life, dual citizenship being one of them,I feel as strongly about immigration as anyone and feel for those who take the time and exspence to do it right and come up against obstacles put in their way.

Scarfaceand family, I wish you all the best and hope that all good things come to you,

Regards and best wishes,Simon