Thread: President of the US of A

Originally Posted by gssixgun

Exactly ^^^^^^

It seems that this simple concept is hard for Americans to grasp,, and near impossible for foreigners

Our rights do not come from the Constitution, they are protected from the Government by the Constitution et al

Well that is the way it is written and the way it was designed, but those rights are being encroached upon more and more every day

And now everyone will come along and prove your point :<0)

I have rights I know I should have, no matter what anybody says, OR who thinks they gave them to me. I do what I want. I just don't act like an idiot when I do it.

Originally Posted by honedright

Sounds like an embedded sophist's argument against ownership of private property. Anyone who's successfully built a business knows that they did build that.

Originally Posted by honedright

Ok...

Nitpicking
adjective
looking for small or unimportant errors or faults, especially in order to criticize unnecessarily.

Is it just a small or unimportant error in defining free speech as a right, a special privilege given, or as a benefit? No, I don't think it's a small error because it has big implications. Certainly worthy of, and necessary to, correct.

Thank you for playing, have a nice day!

Originally Posted by honedright

I think everyone should be able to keep the fruits of their labor. After all, what right does anyone else have to other peoples stuff? Oh that's right, "You didn't build that..."

Yes, this is a perfect example of nitpicking. If you don't like what Obama has done or said, then declare something substantive. There is plenty from which to choose. Go ahead and pick one, but please don't stoop to such a low level of pulling phrases out of context in order to build your case. That "you didn't build that..." phrase is a perfect example of lame nitpicking to take advantage of a simple mistake in a single sentence. It was painfully obvious in the CONTEXT of the entire statement that he meant to say "you didn't build that alone." You can ascertain that by the CONTEXT, which again, is here...

If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn’t get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet.

The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together. There are some things, just like fighting fires, we don’t do on our own. I mean, imagine if everybody had their own fire service. That would be a hard way to organize fighting fires.

So we say to ourselves, ever since the founding of this country, you know what, there are some things we do better together. That’s how we funded the GI Bill. That’s how we created the middle class. That’s how we built the Golden Gate Bridge or the Hoover Dam. That’s how we invented the Internet. That’s how we sent a man to the moon. We rise or fall together as one nation and as one people,

No, that was NOT an "argument against the ownership of private property."


He was making a painfully simple point that we are at least supposed to all be in this together. We ALL benefit from highways, utilities, scientific research, defense, police, firefighters, the internet, regulated banking, social safety nets, and on and on. No one built their business without benefiting from any of the support provided by the rest of society and its government and that was ALL that he meant by those couple of paragraphs.

Bush made a ridiculous number of malaprops. "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." This was one of many many stupid mistakes the man made while speaking, but again, in the context of the speech, we all knew what he meant. No one attacked him for it. It was just another of many stupid mistakes and no one ran with it and said Bush is trying destroy the country and using that phrase out of context to support their claim. That would be absurd.

Originally Posted by 10Pups

And now everyone will come along and prove your point :<0)

I have rights I know I should have, no matter what anybody says, OR who thinks they gave them to me. I do what I want. I just don't act like an idiot when I do it.

If you happened to be born in say Russia, or China, or Congo, etc., instead of in the USA, you may well think you have those same rights, or should have them, but you wouldn't be able to exercise them the same way you can here. Or may be you will be one of those foreigners who doesn't get it because he lacks the special USA sauce.

But the more important point is that when you say "this is so because it is so" as a religious postulate, that's the end of any meaningful conversation and regression to the endless and boring tribalism of "yes you're so right; no you're so wrong". Which doesn't interest me in the slightest.

Originally Posted by prodigy

its impossible to have a serious conversation when liberals are involved....

This made me laugh, I spit my coffee out on my key board.

Originally Posted by Utopian

He was making a painfully simple point that we are at least supposed to all be in this together. We ALL benefit from highways, utilities, scientific research, defense, police, firefighters, the internet, regulated banking, social safety nets, and on and on. No one built their business without benefiting from any of the support provided by the rest of society and its government and that was ALL that he meant by those couple of paragraphs.

Respectfully Ron I disagree, especially after his speech this past weekend with his reference to how successful people were just lucky...
He said what he said, he meant exactly what he said and he doubled and tripled down on what he said..

You can try and spin it into a much deeper and intellectual meaning if it makes you feel better,, but I don't believe he meant anything other then "We deserve part of your hard work"

Also just so everyone knows what a REAL Entrepreneur looks like






She built that

Now that is FUNNY!!!

Originally Posted by Willisf

Now that is FUNNY!!!

I wonder if it is real I was laughing so hard when I saw it I never even bothered to check, it would be even funnier if it was



edit: Looks as though it was a real FB ad hehehe

Originally Posted by gssixgun

She built that

Yeah, it is pretty funny, indeed. Times must be tough if this is how she hustles for the Trump voters in Texas.
Methinks if she were more successful she'd be on the masthead, rather than working under the big dog's umbrella. It's not a fault, of course, not everybody in real estate is as good as Trump.
Nothing subtle in the double exclamation mark, either.

Bernie Math:


His Ideas nor his Campaign seem to be able to make the math work..

Hillary 23 contests won
Bernie 19 contests won

Earned delegates after WV

Hillary 1716
Bernie 1433

Difference today in Delegates 767

Looks like Math is simply not Bernie's best subject, he also can't seem to understand that his freebies will double the Debt within 10 years...