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10-20-2008, 08:39 PM #11Senior Member
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I didn't say they were atheists.
Originally Posted by hoglahoo
They were practicing secularists who went against the religious notions of their times, they doubted the religious conventions is all I meant.
Doubting the religious conventions has gotten us where we are today. There's no manner of spin you can put on the fact that religious establishments have never made a scientific breakthrough, never championed the social issues that differentiate us from peoples of the dark ages, and have tried on numerous occasions to suppress those advancements.
Some counter quotes:
"I have found Christian dogma unintelligible. Early in life, I absenteed myself from Christian assemblies."
-Benjamin Franklin, American Founding Father, author, and inventor
"Lighthouses are more helpful then churches."-Benjamin Franklin, American Founding Father, author, and inventor
"They know that it is human nature to take up causes whereby a man may oppress his neighbor, no matter how unjustly. ... Hence they have had no trouble in finding men who would preach the damnability and heresy of the new doctrine from the very pulpit."-Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer
And a few just for fun, since we tend to lose sight of our Founding Father's stances on religion:
"Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined and imprisoned; yet we have not advanced one inch towards uniformity." –Thomas Jefferson, Notes on Virginia, 1782.
"The Bible is not my book nor Christianity my profession. I could never give assent to the long, complicated statements of Christian dogma."
- Abraham Lincoln, American president (1809-1865).Last edited by Russel Baldridge; 10-20-2008 at 08:50 PM.
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